Cerium LT vs SL vs SV

Summary

CAUTION: Cerium line is designed for casual uses (very little to no output) out in mostly dry weather.

If this doesn't suit you, STOP READING HERE and visit my guide to Arc'teryx Jackets instead! 

Here's the bottom line: 

For winter, get the Cerium SV for freezing (down to 7 deg F (-14 deg C)) and the Cerium LT for cold (down to 28 deg F (-2 deg C)) weather. For chilly summer and spring mornings, get the Cerium SL. 

Introduction

Arc'teryx's Cerium line is consists of 3 down jackets - Cerium SL, LT and SV. 

They're a bit more difficult to take care of compared to synthetic jackets. 

Their upsides, on the other hand, are that they're lighter, more packable and longer lasting (almost zero loss of insulation capability after many years). 

You can also see the reflection of this in the chart I've put together: 

• Related Data Set: Estimated temperature ratings of Arc'teryx jackets

Here's the list of the lowest temperatures you can wear each Arc'teryx jacket without feeling uncomfortably cold. 

Keep in mind that these are only approximate values assuming:

• worn over a shirt only and no shell over,
• during daily use (strolls, power walks etc at most - no high output activities), 
• with light wind, 
• and when it's dry out.

Name	Est. Temp (F/C)	Insulation	Insulated	Review	Discontinued?	M-W
Arc'teryx Alpha Parka (Men's - Women's)	-17/-27	Down	Down		No	M
Feathered Friends Khumbu (Men's)	-17/-27	Down	Down		No	M
Arc'teryx Ceres SV (Men's - Women's)	-15/-26	Down	Down	Review	Yes	M
Mountain Equipment K7 (Men's - Women's)	-13/-25	Down	Down		No	M
Rab Positron Pro (Men's - Women's)	-13/-25	Down	Down		No	M W
Patagonia Grade VII (Men's)	-11/-24	Down	Down		No	M
Arc'teryx Firebee AR (Men's - Women's)	-10/-23	Down	Down	Review	Yes	M W
Mountain Equipment Exo (Men's)	-10/-23	Down	Down		No	M
Arc'teryx Thorsen (Men's)	-7/-22	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	M
Patagonia Frozen Range (Men's - Women's)	-6/-21	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Centrale (Women's)	-5/-20	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	W
Rab Neutrino Pro (Men's - Women's)	-2/-19	Down	Down		No	M W
Arc'teryx Therme (Men's)	-2/-19	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	M
Arc'teryx Dually Belay (Men's)	0/-18	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	Yes	M
Arc'teryx Camosun (Men's)	0/-18	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	M
Arc'teryx Piedmont (Men's)	2/-17	Down	ParkaD		No	M
Arc'teryx Fission SV (Men's - Women's)	3/-16	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M
Outdoor Research Super Alpine (Men's - Women's)	3/-16	Down	Down		No	M W
Patagonia Tres 3-in-1 (Men's - Women's)	3/-16	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Radsten (Men's)	3/-16	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	M
Patagonia Fitz Roy (Men's - Women's)	3/-16	Down	Down		No	M W
Rab Electron Pro (Men's - Women's)	5/-15	Down	Down		No	M W
Arc'teryx Macai (Men's	5/-15	Down	Down	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Nuclei SV Parka (Men's - Women's)	5/-15	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M W
Patagonia DAS Parka (Men's - Women's)	5/-15	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	M W
Arc'teryx Patera (Women's)	5/-15	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	W
Arc'teryx Cerium SV (Men's - Women's)	7/-14	Down	Down	Review	Yes	M W
Black Diamond Access Down (Men's - Women's)	7/-14	Down	Down		No	M W
Arc'teryx Kappa (Men's - Women's)	7/-14	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	Yes	M
Arc'teryx Prema (Women's)	7/-14	Down	ParkaD		No	W
Arc'teryx Radsten Insulated Men's)	7/-14	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	M
Rab Microlight Alpine (Men's - Women's)	7/-14	Down	Down		No	M W
Patagonia Macro Puff (Men's - Women's)	8/-13	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Feathered Friends Eos (Men's - Women's)	8/-13	Down	Down		No	M W
Arc'teryx Macai LT (Men's)	8/-13	Down	Down		No	M
Arc'teryx Seyla (Women's)	8/-13	Down	ParkaD		No	W
Arc'teryx Koda (Men's)	8/-13	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	M
Arc'teryx Thorium AR (Men's - Women's)	8/-13	Down	Down	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Kole (Men's - Women's)	10/-12	Down	ParkaD		No	W
Patagonia Vosque 3-in-1 (Women's)	10/-12	Synthetic	ParkaS	Review	No	W
Arc'teryx Alpha IS (Men's - Women's)	12/-11	Synthetic	Synthetic		Yes	M
Patagonia Jackson Glacier (Men's - Women's)	12/-11	Down	ParkaD	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Sensa (Women's)	14/-10	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	W
Patagonia Hi Loft Down (Men's - Women's )	14/-10	Down	Down	Review	No	M
REI Magma 850 Hoodie 2.0 (Men's - Women's)	14/-10	Down	Down		No	M W
Arc'teryx Atom AR (Men's - Women's)	18/-8	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Patagonia Downdrift (Men's - Women's)	18/-8	Down	Down		No	M W
Patagonia Down Sweater (Men's - Women's)	19/-7	Down	Down	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Magnus (Men's)	19/-7	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	M
Arc'teryx Agrium (Men's - Women's)	21/-6	Down	Down		No	M W
Patagonia AlpLight Down (Men's - Women's)	21/-6	Down	Down		No	M W
Patagonia Topley (Men's)	23/-5	Down	Down		No	M
Rab Xenon 2.0 (Men's - Women's)	23/-5	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M W
Patagonia Silent Down (Men's - Women's)	26/-3	Down	Down	Review	No	M W
Mountain Hardwear Ghost Whisp/2 (Men's - Women's)	28/-2	Down	Down		No	M W
Arc'teryx Cerium LT (Men's - Women's)	28/-2	Down	Down	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Nuclei FL (Men's - Women's)	32/0	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Patagonia City Storm Down (Men's)	32/0	Down	ParkaD		No	M
Arc'teryx Atom LT (Men's - Women's)	36/2	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Patagonia Micro Puff (Men's - Women's)	36/2	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Patagonia Isthmus (Men's	36/2	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	M
Arc'teryx Proton LT (Men's - Women's)	37/3	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Patagonia Nano Puff (Men's - Women's)	37/3	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Norvan SL Ins. (Men's - Women's)	39/4	Synthetic	Synthetic		Yes	M W
Patagonia Nano Air (Men's - Women's)	41/5	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Cerium SL (Men's - Women's)	43/6	Down	Down	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Proton FL (Men's - Women's)	48/9	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	No	M W
Arc'teryx Atom SL (Men's - Women's)	52/11	Synthetic	Synthetic	Review	Yes	M W
The North Face Summit Down (Men's - Women's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M W
Mountain Equipment Lightline Echo (Men's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M
Mountain Equipment Kryos (Men's - Women's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M W
Mountain Equipment Xeros (Men's - Women's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M
Arc'teryx Andra LT IS (Women's)	Testing	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	W
Arc'teryx Phoria IS (Women's)	Testing	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	W
Feathered Friends Helios (Men's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M
Feathered Friends Volant (Men's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M
Rab Axion Pro (Men's - Women's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M W
Feathered Friends Rock & Ice (Men's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M
Rab Valiance (Men's - Women's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M W
Rab Expedition 8000 (Men's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M
Rab Zero G (Men's)	Testing	Down	Down		No	M
Rab Generator Alpine (Men's)	Testing	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M
UBR Regulator Parka II (Men's)	Testing	Synthetic	ParkaS		No	M
Helly Hansen LifaLoft (Men's - Women's)	Testing	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M
Mammut Eigerjoch (Men's - Women's)	Testing	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M W
Helly Hansen Lumines (Men's - Women's)	Unknown	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M
Haglofs V Series Mimic (Men's - Women's)	Unknown	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M W
Black Diamond First Light (Men's - Women's)	Unknown	Synthetic	Synthetic		No	M W

Liked this table? 

If you did, check out this post of mine to see more Arc'teryx tables like this one, such as fill details for all down jackets. 

As you see, the warmest Cerium jacket is the SV model (severe weather), while the Cerium SL (superlight) is the lightest and the Cerium LT (lightweight) is in the middle. 

You can find a more detailed guide about these modifiers in Arc'teryx's Naming Scheme Page here - for all "SL", "LT" and "SV" as well as "Cerium". 

Also...

• SV is available with the hood only (since it maximizes warmth).
• LT offers both options: With and without hoody.
• SL offers both options: With and without hoody.

Warmth Differences

Cerium jackets are insulated both with down and synthetic materials. Let's start with down insulation and see how they line up. 

Down insulation

All 3 Cerium models in this post are equipped with a whooping 850 fill power European grey goose down. 

If you're unaware, this value represents the amount of volume the down fully expands to at rest. The higher the FP (fill power) number, the more air will be trapped and heated inside the down, and ultimately the higher the warmth will end up being. 

FP value goes up to 900 - 1000, and even the most "luxurious" parkas of Arcteryx like Thorsen, Therme, and Camosun use 750 FP down. Less than those of the Cerium's. 

However, as you can guess, the amount of down is equally important. It is possible to ensure equal warmth with a lower FP down - it's just that you're going to have to use more of it and hence the jacket will be significantly heavier.

This is why the Thorsen, for example, is warmer than Cerium SV, but it's also considerably heavier (1.1 kg vs 400 g - 2.5 lbs vs 0.9 lbs).

It's the same with these jackets:

• SV: Equipped with (162 grams) 5.7 ounces of 850 FP down
• LT: Equipped with (102 grams) 3.5 ounces of 850 FP down
• SL: Equipped with (58 grams) 1.9 ounces of 850 FP down

This is why SV is the heaviest and warmest, and SL is the least warm and lightest.

Synthetic insulation

In addition to down insulation, the areas of these jackets which experience a lot of movement (such as the armpits) are also equipped with synthetic insulation (this is actually the case for all Arc'teryx down jackets):

• SV: 140 g/m² and 80 g/m² Coreloft insulation.
• LT: 100 g/m² and 80 g/m² Coreloft insulation.
• SL: 100 g/m² and 40 g/m² Coreloft insulation.

As a result, insulation loss around these areas (which typically occurs due to down migration) are minimized.

Results

Generally speaking, with only a long sleeved shirt under and without a shell on top, for an average person, during daily use (strolls, power walks, etc) and with enough wind to cause an umbrella to twist in your hand...

The approximate lowest temperatures where an average person can wear these jackets without feeling cold can be listed as:

• SV: -14 deg C (7 deg F) - ≈400 grams (≈15 oz).
• LT: -2 deg C (28 deg F) - ≈300 grams (≈11 oz).
• SL: +6 deg C (43 deg F) - ≈200 grams (≈7 oz).

If you think you run hotter or colder than the average person, mentally shift these temperatures accordingly.

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Fit

SV is a little baggier than SL and LT. 

With the baggier cut, more air trapped between your body and the jacket. As a result, more air is heated - which works as a great extra insulation. Many other insulated gear (such as sleeping bags) leverage the same principle.

There are cases where a baggier cut actually comes counter productive since it allows too much air to circulate and hence air can't get heated properly. Some even let the cold air in. But in our case it's done correctly and the baggier cut of Cerium SV perfectly adds to its warmth.

Baggier cut also lets you layer under and still stay equally comfortable when wearing the jacket - which is something to consider. 

Both SL and LT come with the identical trim fit. One of their biggest pro is that they fit fantastic and provides exceptional comfort. 

Face Properties

This can be another important thing to consider. Outer fabrics are quite fragile.

Waterproofing

SV and LT are DWR coated, whereas SL isn't.

Still, down insulated jackets (at least say heavily down insulated jackets with little synthetic insulation besides - like Cerium) are usually more prone to losing their performances out in wet weather, compared to synthetic jackets. 

This is the main downside to consider with all these jackets - even with SV.

You can say all these jackets are moisture resistant - but not water resistant.

If this is a deal-breaker for you, and hence you'd rather a truly wind & waterproof fabric instead, the reasonable substitutes for each model can be listed as follows:

• Cerium SV - Ceres SV [Read my review]
• Cerium LT - Thorium AR [Read my review]
• Cerium SL - Proton FL or Atom SL [Read my review]

Checking out this post where we listed Arcteryx's and Patagonia's top synthetic insulated jackets can be helpful as well.

Another option would be to get a hard shell on top. Cerium is a mid-layer line, after all.

Arc'teryx staff also stated the hard shell option and low water resistance performance of Cerium here:

You can read more about Beta AR in this post of mine.

Windproofing

Mid to strong winds may (will) push through the nylon and down layers of all three Cerium models but lighter strength winds are usually blocked.

Durability

Cerium LT uses a thicker, heavier and more durable nylon both on the face fabric & lining compared to SL (Arato 10 vs Arato 7).

SV, on the other hand, is equipped with Arato 10 on the face fabric and 7 on the lining.

Still, none of these jackets are really durable as they aren't abrasion resistant. They're meant to wear under a shell in most physically active or foul weather conditions.

That does NOT mean that they can't be worn as a standalone piece, they certainly can, however, you're going to have to treat equally kind to LT, SV and SL. 

They're all fragile. Most complained side of these jackets. Let's hope seeing at least a 30 or 40 fabric in future updates.

If you WILL be treating your jacket fairly kind or get a shell over it, though; you probably won't regret a fragile construction since it won't cause a negative impact.

Conclusion

If you'll be wearing your Cerium below, say, -8 deg C (17 deg F) a fair amount of days, then I'd recommend the Cerium SV. 

If winters aren't really THAT cold in your town (say, above -8 deg C (17 deg F) most days), then I'd recommend Cerium LT because of its fantastic fit as well as less risk of overheating. 

If you're planning to wear the jacket mainly in fall and spring (above +5 deg C (40 deg F)) during various outdoor activities such as climbing and hiking, then I'd recommend the Cerium SL.