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Gamma SL, LT and MX are Arc'teryx's primary softshell jackets. Although these jackets are centered around providing as much breathability as possible, Arc'teryx doesn't manufacture them with pit zips. No one knows why. Maybe for streamlining purposes.
Many Dead Bird enthusiasts including myself complain about this. It's kind of disappointing, and makes choosing between these jackets difficult.
Not everyone like pit zips though. Some people don't want them and stand by it.
So, if you don't want pit zips, and looking for a softshell you can wear when it's just a little windy and/or rainy, then Gamma SL, LT and MX can be perfect options for you.
Go for the SL if you want trimmest fit in the body and hood, if you're OK with just two (hand warmer) pockets, and if you want something super light (11 oz or 310 g). Go for the MX if you want to maximize durability, want additional chest pockets and want helmet compatibility. If you want something in between, get the LT.
If you do want pit zips, on the other hand, then stop reading this post right here and take a look at my Arc'teryx Beta AR vs Beta SV Hardshells article. They both have pit zips.
- Gamma SL vs LT vs MX comparison page: https://arcteryx.com/us/en/compare/X000005427-revel/X000007065-black/X000006375-black%20sapphire
- Arc'teryx Jacket Finder: https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/jacket-finder
The redesign includes:
- An updated fabric with increased warmth-to-weight ratio and durability,
- A front liner for additional warmth,
- Updated sleeve opening for easier on/off,
- Cohaesive™ cordlock adjusters on the hood,
- And taped seams for a clean finish.
Gamma LT and SL remain the same.
The information given in this post applies both to 2020 and the previous revision of Gamma MX.
Gamma LT's Wee Burly and Gamma SL's Fortius 1.0 are very breathable fabrics.
This advantage makes the LT and SL very suitable option for high output activities.
- 13 Mar 2023: I've been to Pfander and floodplain forests with my Nuclei SV
- 13 Dec 2022: Arc'teryx Alpha Parka Review: The most impressive jacket of all time
- 8 Dec 2022: Arc'teryx ReGEAR: OutdoorCrunch exclusive promo code!
- 7 Nov 2022: 2023 Thorium Hoody is in - as well as the new Thorium Parka (yes, parka)
- 2 Nov 2022: Beta Insulated Jacket: Pit zips AND two way zipper!
- 7 October 2022: Proton Hybrid Hoody is live! The ultimate do it all?
- 5 October 2022: DropHood vs StormHood: Pros/cons and best uses
- 5 September 2022: Reviewing Arc'teryx Fall Winter 22/23 Gear
- 5 August 2022: 5 things all Arc'teryx newbies should know
- #A sidenote here: Arc'teryx's PDF guide to jackets is GOOOLLLLDDDDD. Absolutely check that out too if you're interested in buying one.
Then there's MX with Fortius 2.0, which is less breathable than the former two. It's still quite breathable though - even when you compare it to Arc'teryx's other premium shells.
As you see, all are breathable, with LT and SL being a bit superior to the MX.
As it's the case with all stretchy soft-shells out there, none of these 3 products will offer superior weather protection compared to hard-shells - such as my favorite one from Arc'teryx.
Use this chart to compare Arc'teryx shells to one another.
|Name||Bottom line||Activity||Review||Breathability||Weather Res.||Durability||Packability||Temp (F/C)||Pit zips?||Two way zipper?||Stuffs into itself?||Hood?||Face Fabric||Fit||Weight||Length||Measurements|
|Alpha FL (Men's - Women's)||Climbing||4/10||5/10||6/10||10/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||StormHood||Hadron 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||209 g / 7.4 oz||76.5 cm / 30 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Alpha SL (Men's - Women's)||Climbing||3/10||4/10||6/10||9/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||StormHood||N40p 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||326 g / 11.5 oz||77.5 cm / 30.5 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Alpha AR (Men's - Women's)||Go-to climbing harshell.||Climbing||Review||8/10||7/10||8/10||4/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N40d & N80d Most Rugged 3L Gore-Tex Pro||Regular||430 g / 15.2 oz||79.5 cm / 31.25 in||[Men's]|
|Alpha SV (Men's - Women's)||Strongest climbing hardshell.||Climbing||Review||8/10||10/10||10/10||3/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N100d Most Rugged 3L Gore-Tex Pro||Regular||510 g / 1 lb 2 oz||78 cm / 30.75 in||[Men's]|
|Alpha IS (Men's)||Climbing||7/10||5/10||5/10||8/10||23/-5||No||Yes||Yes||StormHood||N40p-X 2L Gore-Tex||Regular||610 g / 1 lb 5.5 oz||78 cm / 30.75 in|
|Beta (Men's - Women's)||All Round||5/10||5/10||4/10||5/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||N30p-X 3L Gore-Tex||Fitted||300 g / 10.6 oz||76 cm / 30 in|
|Beta Long (Men's)||All Round||Review||5/10||8/10||8/10||3/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||N80p 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||441 g / 15.6 oz||85 cm / 33.5 in|
|Beta Coat (Women's)||All Round||7/10||5/10||4/10||5/10||N/A||No||Yes||No||StormHood||3L Gore-Tex||Regular||320 g / 11.3 oz||?||[Men's / Women's]|
|Beta LT Hadron (Men's - Women's)||All Round||5/10||5/10||4/10||5/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||Hadron 3L Gore-Tex||Fitted||255g / 9 oz||76 cm / 30 in|
|Beta LT (Men's - Women's)||Beta AR alternative.||All Round||Review||8/10||7/10||8/10||5/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N40d 3L Gore-Tex||Fitted||395 g / 13.9 oz||76 cm / 30 in|
|Beta Insulated (Men's - Women's)||Best insulated shell.||All Round||10/10||4/10||4/10||2/10||21/-6||Yes||Yes||No||StormHood||N40d 2L Gore-Tex||Regular||680 g / 1 lb 8 oz||78.5 cm / 31 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Beta Insulated Coat (Women's)||Beta Insulated alternative.||All Round||7/10||4/10||4/10||2/10||16/-9||No||Yes||No||StormHood||N40d 2L Gore-Tex||Regular||600 g / 1 lb 5.2 oz||?||[Men's / Women's]|
|Beta AR (Men's - Women's)||Go-to all-round harshell.||All Round||Review||8/10||8/10||8/10||4/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N40r-X & N80p-X Most Rugged 3L Gore-Tex Pro||Regular||460 g / 1 lb||76 cm / 30 in|
|Beta SV (Men's - Women's)||Strongest all-round harshell.||All Round||Review||8/10||10/10||9/10||3/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p-X Most Rugged 3L Gore-Tex Pro||Regular||495 g / 1 lb 1.5 oz||79 cm / 31 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Alpine Guide (Men's - Women's)||All Round||8/10||10/10||9/10||3/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80d-X Most Rugged 3L Gore-Tex Pro||Regular||480g / 1 lb 0.9 oz||?||[Men's]|
|Gamma SL (Men's - Women's)||A trimmer Gamma LT.||All Round||Review||7/10||2/10||6/10||5/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||Fortius 1.0||Trim||310 g / 10.9 oz||74 cm / 29.1 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Gamma LT (Men's)||A fleeceless, trimmer Gamma MX.||All Round||Review||7/10||3/10||7/10||3/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||Wee Burly||Regular||545 g / 1 lb 3.2 oz||76 cm / 30 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Gamma MX (Men's - Women's)||A softshell with a fleece.||All Round||Review||6/10||4/10||8/10||3/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||Fortius 2.0||Regular||555 g / 1 lb 3.6 oz||74 cm / 29.1 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Rush (Men's - Women's)||Go-to ski jacket.||Skiing||Review||8/10||9/10||9/10||3/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p-X & N100p-X 3L Most Rugged Gore-Tex Pro||Regular||590 g / 1 lb 4.8 oz||79.5 cm / 31.25 in||[Men's]|
|Sabre (Men's)||Alternative to Rush.||Skiing||8/10||8/10||8/10||2/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p-X 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||705 g / 1 lb 8.9 oz||79 cm / 31 in|
|Sentinel (Women's)||Skiing||8/10||8/10||8/10||2/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N70p 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||370 g / 13.1 oz||?|
|Macai (Men's)||Go-to insulated ski jacket.||Skiing||Review||10/10||8/10||9/10||1/10||5/-15||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N40p-X 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||1 kg / 2 lb 3.3 oz||75 cm / 29.5 in|
|Macai LT (Men's)||A lighter Macai with StormHood.||Skiing||8/10||7/10||8/10||1/10||8/-13||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N40p-X 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||855 g / 1 lb 14.2 oz||?||[Men's]|
|Andessa (Women's)||Go-to insulated ski jacket.||Skiing||10/10||Testing||Testing||1/10||8/-13||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N40d 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||869 g / 1 lb 14.7 oz||?|
|Andessa Shell (Women's)||Non-insulated Andessa.||Skiing||5/10||Testing||Testing||3/10||N/A||No||No||No||DropHood||N70p 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||560 g / 1 lb 3.8 oz||?|
|Theriss Down (Women's)||Skiing||8/10||6/10||7/10||2/10||Testing||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p 2L Gore-Tex||Regular||709 g / 1 lb 9 oz||?|
|Rush IS (Women's)||An insulated Rush.||Skiing||5/10||Testing||Testing||9/10||16/-9||No||No||Yes||StormHood||Gore-Tex Infinium||Regular||515 g / 1 lb 2.2 oz||?|
|Sentinel IS (Women's)||Skiing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||21/-6||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p 2L Gore-Tex||Regular||600 g / 1 lb 5.2 oz||?||[Women's]|
|Ski Guide (Men's - Women's)||Skiing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||N/A||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N80d Most Rugged 3L Gore-Tex Pro||Regular||570 g / 1 lb 4.1 oz||?|
|Micon Heather||Skiing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||NP100-d 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||685 g / 1 lb 8.2 oz||83 cm / 32.5 in||[Men's]|
|Micon (Men's)||Skiing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||685 g / 1 lb 8.2 oz||83 cm / 32.5 in||[Men's]|
|Cassiar (Men's)||Skiing||Review||8/10||7/10||8/10||3/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N70p 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||820 g / 1 lb 12.9 oz||74.5 cm / 29.3 in||[Women's]|
|Cassiar LT (Men's)||Skiing||Review||6/10||6/10||6/10||5/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N70p 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||605 g / 1 lb 5.3 oz||75 cm / 29.5 in||[Women's]|
|Ravenna (Women's)||Skiing||Review||8/10||7/10||8/10||3/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N70s-4 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||725 g / 1 lb 9.6 oz||69.5 cm / 27.4 in||[Men's]|
|Ravenna LT (Women's)||Skiing||Review||6/10||6/10||6/10||5/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||DropHood||N70p 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||540 g / 1 lb 3 oz||69 cm / 27.2 in||[Men's]|
|Procline (Men's)||Skiing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N70p Gore-Tex Infinium||Trim||720 g / 1 lb 9.4 oz||76 cm / 30 in||[Women's]|
|Shashka Stretch (Women's)||Skiing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N70p Gore-Tex Infinium||Trim||670 g / 1 lb 7.6 oz||71 cm / 28 in||[Women's]|
|Sabre AR (Men's)||Skiing||Review||7/10||8/10||7/10||7/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N70p 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||700 g / 1 lb 8.7 oz||79 cm / 31 in||[Men's]|
|Sentinel AR (Women's)||Skiing||Review||7/10||8/10||7/10||7/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N70p 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||590 g / 1 lb 4.8 oz||72.5 cm / 28.5 in||[Women's]|
|Sabre LT (Men's)||Skiing||Review||7/10||8/10||7/10||8/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||660 g / 1 lb 7.3 oz||83 cm / 32.5 in|
|Sentinel LT (Women's)||Skiing||Review||7/10||8/10||7/10||8/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p 3L Gore-Tex||Regular||565 g / 1 lb 3.9 oz||73.5 cm / 29 in|
|Incendia (Women's)||Skiing||Review||8/10||9/10||9/10||3/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||NP100d 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||610 g / 1 lb 5.5 oz||79 cm / 31 in||[Women's]|
|Indencia IS||Skiing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||Yes||No||No||StormHood||N80p 2L Gore-Tex||Regular||?||78 cm / 30.75 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Norvan LT (Men's - Women's)||Go-to running jacket.||Running||5/10||5/10||8/10||6/10||N/A||No||No||No||Standard||N13p 3L Gore-Tex||Fitted||190 g / 6.7 oz||?||[Women's]|
|Squamish (Men's - Women's)||Trimmer, lighter, packable running jacket.||Running||Review||5/10||4/10||7/10||9/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||StormHood||30D Tyono||Trim||140 g / 4.9 oz||77.5 cm / 30.5 in||[Women's]|
|Norvan SL Ins. (Women's)||Running||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||39/4||No||No||Yes||Standard||Gore-Tex ShakeDry||Trim||270 g / 9.5 oz||71.5 cm / 28.1 in||[Women's]|
|Cita (Women's)||Running||Review||7/10||4/10||5/10||10/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||Standard||Lumin||Trim||120 g / 4.2 oz||67.5 cm / 26.5 in||[Men's]|
|Cita SL (Women's)||Running||Review||7/10||4/10||4/10||10/10||N/A||Yes||No||Yes||Standard||Permeair 20||Trim||65 g / 2.3 oz||61.5 cm / 24.2 in||[Men's]|
|Incendo (Men's)||Running||Review||7/10||4/10||5/10||10/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||Standard||Lumin||Trim||125 g / 4.4 oz||?|
|Incendo SL (Men's)||Running||Review||7/10||4/10||4/10||10/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||Standard||Permair 20 & Canim||Trim||80 g / 2.8 oz||73 cm / 28.75 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Norvan SL (Men's - Women's)||Running||Review||7/10||6/10||8/10||8/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||Standard||Gore-Tex Infinium||Trim||120 g / 4.2 oz||77 cm / 30.4 in||[Women's]|
|Trino SL (Men's)||Running||Review||8/10||5/10||7/10||6/10||N/A||No||No||No||Standard||Gore-Tex Infinium||Trim||340 g / 12 oz||74 cm / 29.1 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Trino SL Anorak (Women's)||Running||Review||8/10||7/10||8/10||7/10||N/A||No||No||No||Standard||Gore-Tex Infinium||Trim||290 g / 10.2 oz||65 cm / 25.5 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Nodin (Men's - Women's)||Running||8/10||5/10||5/10||10/10||N/A||No||No||Yes||Standard||20D Tyono||Trim||155 g / 5.5 oz||75 cm / 29.5 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Solano (Men's - Women's)||Around Town||Review||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||N/A||No||No||No||Standard||Gore-Tex Infinium||Relaxed||355 g / 12.5 oz||72 cm / 28.3 in|
|Venda Anorak (Women's)||Around Town||Testing||Testing||Testing||Testing||N/A||No||No||No||Standard||Gore-Tex||Relaxed||255 g / 9 oz||75.5 cm / 29.7 in|
|Zeta FL (Men's - Women's)||Hiking||4/10||6/10||4/10||6/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||N20r 2L Gore-Tex||Trim||221 g / 7.8 oz||76 cm / 30 in||[Men's / Women's]|
|Zeta SL (Men's - Women's)||Hiking||Review||3/10||5/10||4/10||5/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||2L Gore-Tex||Trim||310 g / 10.9 oz||77.8 cm / 30.6 in||[Men's]|
|Zeta LT (Men's - Women's)||Hiking||5/10||7/10||8/10||5/10||N/A||No||No||No||StormHood||N40P-X 3L Gore-Tex||Trim||335 g / 11.8 oz||78 cm / 30.75 in||[Men's]|
|Zeta AR (Men's)||Hiking||7/10||8/10||7/10||4/10||N/A||Yes||No||No||StormHood||3L Gore-Tex||Regular||425 g / 15 oz||80 cm / 31.5 in|
More about this chart: https://outdoorcrunch.com/best-arcteryx-shells/
If you're confused now and don't know which jacket best corresponds to your own needs, then follow the advice given below:
|Name||Est. Temp (F/C)||Review||Pit venting?||Stuffs into itself?||Two way zipper?||Type||Fill Power||Fill Weight (grams)||Fill Volume (FP x FW)||Synthetic Insulator (SI)||SI Amount||Face Fabric||Activity||Fit||Weight||Length (CB)|
|Arc'teryx Alpha (Men's - Women's)||-18/-28||Review||No||Yes||Yes||Down||850||296||251,600||Coreloft||90 g/m²||N30r 2L GoreTex Infinium||Climbing||Regular||805 g / 1 lb 12.4 oz||86 cm / 34 in|
|Feathered Friends Khumbu||-17/-27||No||Yes||No||Down||900||378||340,200||Primaloft Gold||200 g||Pretex Shield XT||All Round||Regular||960 g / 2 lb 2 oz||?|
|Arc'teryx Ceres SV (Men's - Women's)||-15/-26||Review||No||Yes||Yes||Down||850||240||204,000||Coreloft||?||Arato 30||All Round||Regular||880 g / 1 lb 15 oz||86 cm / 34 in|
|Mountain Equipment K7 (Men's)||-13/-25||No||Yes||Yes||Down||800||300||240,000||N/A||N/A||30D Drilite||All Round||Regular||820 g / 1 lb 13 oz||76 cm / 30 in|
|Rab Positron Pro (Men's)||-13/-25||No||Yes||Yes||Down||800||300||240,000||N/A||N/A||40D Pertex Quantum Pro||All Round||Regular||740 g / 1 lb 10 oz||85 cm / 33.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Therme SV (Men's)||-11/-24||Review||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||211||158,250||Coreloft||60 g/m²||2L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||1.072 kg / 2 lb 5.8 oz||96 cm / 37.75 in|
|Patagonia Grade VII (Men's)||-11/-24||No||No||Yes||Down||800||335||268,000||N/A||N/A||1.2 oz 15 & 20D Perfex Quantum||Around Town||Regular||743 g / 1 lb 10.1 oz||83 cm / 32.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Firebee AR (Men's - Women's)||-10/-23||Review||No||Yes||Yes||Down||800||225||180,000||N/A||N/A||Arato 7 & 10||All Round||Regular||680 g / 1 lb 8 oz||79 cm / 31 in|
|Mountain Equipment Exo (Men's)||-10/-23||No||Yes||Yes||Down||800||265||212,000||N/A||N/A||Nylon||All Round||Regular||770 g / 1 lb 11.2 oz||79 cm / 31 in|
|Arc'teryx Thorsen (Men's)||-7/-22||Review||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||192||144,000||Coreloft||60 g/m²||90D 2L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||1.1 kg / 2 lb 5.4 oz||91 cm / 36 in|
|Patagonia Frozen Range (Men's - Women's)||-6/-21||Review||No||No||No||Parka||700||268||187,600||N/A||N/A||4 oz 75-denier polyester||Around Town||Regular||1.253 kg / 2 lb 12.2 oz||84 cm / 33 in|
|Mountain Equipment Li. Ec. (Men's - Women's)||-5/-20||No||No||Yes||Down||700||295||206,500||N/A||N/A||50D Drilite||All Round||Regular||822 g / 1 lb 13 oz||72 cm / 28 in|
|Arc'teryx Patera Long (Women's)||-2/-19||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||74||55,500||Coreloft||60 + 80 g/m²||2L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||1.1 kg / 2 lb 6.8 oz||117.5 cm / 46.25 in|
|Rab Neutrino Pro (Men's - Women's)||-2/-19||No||Yes||Yes||Down||800||212||169,600||N/A||N/A||20D Pertex Quantum Pro||All Round||Regular||585 g / 1 lb 8.6 oz||77 cm / 30.3 in|
|Arc'teryx Dually Belay (Men's)||0/-18||Review||No||Yes||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||ThermaTek||92 g/m²||30D Nylon||Around Town||Regular||705 g / 1 lb 9 oz||84 cm / 33 in|
|Arc'teryx Centrale (Women's)||0/-18||Review||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||157||117,750||Coreloft||60 g/m²||N90p Nylon||Around Town||Regular||885 g / 1 lb 15.2 oz||95 cm / 37.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Camosun (Men's)||0/-18||Review||No||No||No||Parka||750||105||78,750||Coreloft||140 g/m²||N150p-X Gore-Tex||Around Town||Trim||960 g / 2 lb 1.9 oz||80 cm / 31.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Cerium SV (Men's)||0/-18||Review||No||Yes||No||Down||850||162||137,700||Coreloft||80 + 140 g/m²||Arato 7 & 10||All Round||Regular||415 g / 14.6 oz||69.5 cm / 27.4 in|
|Arc'teryx Revet (Men's)||2/-17||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||?||N/A||N/A||20d nylon/spandex double weave||Around Town||Regular||755 g / 1 lb 10.6 oz||91 cm / 36 in|
|Arc'teryx Piedmont (Men's)||3/-16||No||Yes||Yes||Parka||750||218||163,500||N/A||N/A||Arato 10||Around Town||Regular||515 g / 1 lb 2.2 oz||82 cm / 32.25 in|
|Arc'teryx Fission SV (Men's - Women's)||3/-16||Review||No||No||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||90 + 65 g/m²||N80p-X Gore-Tex 2L||All Round||Regular||890 g / 1 lb 15.4 oz||81 cm / 31.8 in|
|Arc'teryx Alpha Lightweight (Men's)||3/-16||No||Yes||Yes||Down||850||117||99,450||Coreloft Compact||40 g/m²||Hadron 2L Gore-Tex Infinium||Climbing||Regular||540 g / 1 lb 3 oz||?|
|Outdoor Research Sup. Alp. (Men's - Women's)||3/-16||No||No||Yes||Down||800||182||145,600||N/A||N/A||30D Pertex Quantum Pro||All Round||Regular||825 g / 1 lb 13.1 oz||85 cm / 33.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Alessa Long (Women's)||3/-16||No||No||No||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft||80 + 120 g/m²||N90p 2L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||1.015 kg / 2 lb 3.8 oz||123 cm / 48.5 in|
|Patagonia Tres 3-in-1 (Men's - Women's)||3/-16||Review||No||No||No||Parka||700||118||82,600||N/A||N/A||5.5 oz polyester||Around Town||Regular||1.307 kg / 2 lb 14.1 oz||85 cm / 33.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Radsten Parka (Men's)||3/-16||No||No||No||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||120 g/m²||NP100d Gore-Tex 2L||Around Town||Regular||745 g / 1 lb 10.3 oz||82 cm / 32.25 in|
|Rab Electron Pro (Men's - Women's)||5/-15||No||Yes||Yes||Down||800||180||144,000||N/A||N/A||20D Pertex Quantum Pro||All Round||Regular||525 g / 1 lb 2.5 oz||74 cm / 29 in|
|Arc'teryx Therme Parka (Men's)||5/-15||Review||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||120||90,000||Coreloft||60 + 80 g/m²||P75d Polyester||Around Town||Regular||991 g / 2 lb 3 oz||85 cm / 33.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Macai (Men's)||5/-15||Review||Yes, zips||No||No||Down||750||69||51,750||Coreloft Compact||60 + 100 g/m²||N40p-X 3L Gore-Tex||Ski/Snowboard||Regular||1 kg / 2 lb 4 oz||76 cm / 30 in|
|Arc'teryx Nuclei SV (Men's)||5/-15||Review||No||Yes||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||180 g/m2 + 90 g/m2||Arato 15||Climbing||Regular||600 g / 1 lb 5.2 oz||81 cm / 31.8 in|
|Patagonia DAS Parka (Men's)||5/-15||No||Yes||Yes||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||PrimaLoft Gold Insulation Eco||133 + 40 g||Pertex Quantum Pro||Around Town||Regular||555 g / 1lb 3.6 oz||84 cm / 33 in|
|Arc'teryx Patera (Women's)||5/-15||Review||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||58||43,500||Coreloft||60 + 80 g/m²||2L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Trim||867 g / 1 lb 14.6 oz||93 cm / 37 in|
|Black Diamond Access Down (Men's - Women's)||7/-14||No||Yes||Yes||Down||700||155||108,500||N/A||N/A||30D ripstop nylon||All Round||Regular||442 g / 15.6 oz||76 cm / 29.75 in|
|Arc'teryx Kappa (Men's)||7/-14||Review||No||No||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||140 g/m²||N70p Gore Thermium||All Round||Regular||755 g / 1 lb 10.6 oz||80 cm / 31.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Prema Down Coat (Women's)||7/-14||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||92||69,000||N/A||N/A||Nylon||Around Town||Regular||794 g / 1 lb 12 oz||117 cm / 46.1 in|
|Arc'teryx Radsten Insulated (Men's)||7/-14||No||No||No||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||120 g/m²||NP100d Gore-Tex 2L||Around Town||Regular||715 g / 1 lb 9.2 oz||73 cm / 28.75 in|
|Rab Microlight Alpine (Men's - Women's)||7/-14||No||Yes||No||Down||700||153||107,100||N/A||N/A||30D Pertex Quantum||All Round||Regular||466 g / 1 lb 0.5 oz||72 cm / 28.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Thorium (Men's - Women's)||7/-14||Review||No||Yes||Yes||Down||750||140||105,000||Coreloft||80 + 140 g/m²||Arato 30||All Round||Regular||517 g / 1 lb 2.2 oz||71.5 cm / 28.1 in|
|Feathered Friends Eos||8/-13||No||Yes||No||Down||900||105||94,500||N/A||N/A||Pertex Quantum||All Round||Regular||306 g / 10.8 oz||?|
|Arc'teryx Thorium AR (Men's - Women's)||8/-13||Review||No||Yes||No||Down||750||130||97,500||Coreloft||80 + 140 g/m²||Arato 30||All Round||Regular||490 g / 1 lb 1.3 oz||72 cm / 28.3 in|
|Patagonia Macro Puff (Men's - Women's)||8/-13||Review||No||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||PlumaFill||135 + 90 g||10D Recycled nylon ripstop||All Round||Regular||435 g / 15.3 oz||79 cm / 31 in|
|Arc'teryx Macai LT (Men's)||8/-13||Yes, zips||No||No||Down||750||49||36,750||Coreloft Compact||60 g/m²||N40p-X 3L Gore-Tex||Ski/Snowboard||Regular||855 g / 1 lb 14.2 oz||74 cm / 29.1 in|
|Arc'teryx Seyla (Women's)||8/-13||No||No||Yes||Parka||750||92||69,000||N/A||N/A||Arato 10||Around Town||Regular||507 g / 1 lb. 1.9 oz.||87 cm / 34.4 in|
|Patagonia Fitz Roy (Men's - Women's)||8/-13||No||Yes||No||Down||800||128||102,400||N/A||N/A||20D Nylon||All Round||Regular||632 g / 1lb 6.3 oz||74 cm / 29 in|
|Arc'teryx Koda (Men's)||8/-13||No||No||No||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft||80 + 140 g/m²||N80p-X Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||720 g / 1 lb 9.4 oz||75 cm / 29.5 in|
|Patagonia Vosque 3-in-1 (Women's)||10/-12||Review||No||No||No||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||ThermoLite||100 g||65% nylon, 35% polyester||Around Town||Regular||1.360 kg / 3 lb||90 cm / 35.5 in|
|Patagonia City Storm Down (Men's - Women's)||12/-11||No||Yes||No||Parka||700||191||133,700||N/A||N/A||4.2 oz polyester||All Round||Regular||468 g / 16.5 oz||91 cm / 36 in|
|Patagonia Jackson Glacier (Men's - Women's)||12/-11||Review||No||No||Yes||Parka||700||141||98,700||N/A||N/A||3.6 oz 50D polyester||Around Town||Regular||880 g / 1 lb 15 oz||79 cm / 31 in|
|Arc'teryx Sensa (Women's)||14/-10||No||No||Yes||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||120 g/m²||NP100d Gore-Tex 2L||Around Town||Relaxed||785 g / 1 lb 11.7 oz||86 cm / 34 in|
|Patagonia Hi Loft Down (Men's - Women's)||14/-10||Review||No||Yes||No||Down||600||177||106,200||N/A||N/A||1.4 oz 30D polyester||All Round||Regular||540 g / 1 lb 3 oz||76 cm / 30 in|
|REI Magma 850 Hoodie 2.0 (Men's - Women's)||14/-10||No||Yes||No||Down||850||120||102,000||N/A||N/A||Pertex mini ripstop nylon||All Round||Regular||340 g / 13.75 oz||74 cm / 29.25 in|
|Arc'teryx Beta Insulated Coat (Women's)||16/-9||Review||No||No||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft||80 g/m² + 120 g/m²||2L 40D Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||600 g / 1 lb 5.2 oz||?|
|Arc'teryx Atom AR (Men's - Women's)||18/-8||Review||Yes, mesh||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||120 g/m2 + 80 g/m2 + 60 g/m2||30D Tyono||All Round||Regular||475 g / 1 lb||74 cm / 29.1 in|
|Patagonia Downdrift (Men's - Women's)||18/-8||No||No||No||Down||600||279||167,400||N/A||N/A||4.2 oz polyester||Around Town||Regular||1.014 kg / 2 lb 3.8 oz||?|
|Arc'teryx Magnus (Men's)||19/-7||No||No||No||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft||80 g||N60p Gore-Tex 2L||Around Town||Regular||690 g / 1 lb 8.3 oz||83 cm / 32.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Agrium (Men's - Women's)||21/-6||No||Yes||No||Down||850||117||99,450||N/A||N/A||Arato||All Round||Regular||365 g / 12.9 oz||75 cm / 29.5 in|
|Patagonia AlpLight Down (Men's - Women's)||21/-6||No||Yes||No||Down||800||100||80,000||N/A||N/A||0.8 oz 10D polyester||All Round||Slim||270 g / 9.5 oz||74 cm / 29 in|
|Arc'teryx Beta Insulated (Men's - Women's)||21/-6||Review||Yes, zips||No||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||80 g/m²||2L 40D Gore-Tex||All Round||Regular||680 g / 1 lb 8 oz||78.5 cm / 31 in|
|Patagonia Topley (Men's)||23/-5||No||No||Yes||Down||700||172||120,400||N/A||N/A||6 oz polyester||All Round||Regular||1.133 kg / 2 lb 8 oz||77 cm / 30.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Alpha IS (Men's)||23/-5||No||Yes||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||65 g/m²||N40p-X 2L Gore-Tex||Climbing||Regular||610 g / 1 lb 5.5 oz||78 cm / 30.75 in|
|Rab Xenon 2.0 (Men's - Women's)||23/-5||No||Yes||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||PrimaLoft Silver||60 g||30D Pertex Quantum||All Round||Regular||385 g / 13.6 oz||71.5 cm / 28.1 in|
|Patagonia Down Sweater (Men's - Women's)||23/-5||Review||No||Yes||No||Down||800||150||120,000||N/A||N/A||1.4 oz 20x30D polyester||All Round||Regular||428 g / 15.1 oz||67 cm / 26.25 in|
|Arc'teryx Ralle Parka (Men's)||25/-4||No||No||Yes||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft||80 g/m²||2L 40D Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||735 g / 1 lb 9.9 oz||?|
|Patagonia Silent Down (Men's - Women's)||26/-3||Review||No||No||No||Down||700||109||76,300||N/A||N/A||2.2 oz polyester||Around Town||Regular||585 g / 1 lb 4.7 oz||74 cm / 29 in|
|Arc'teryx Therme Insulated (Men's)||26/-3||Review||No||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||40 g/m²||2L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||960 g / 2 lb 1.9 oz||73 cm / 28.75 in|
|Arc'teryx Cerium (Men's - Women's)||26/-3||No||Yes||No||Down||850||113||96,050||Coreloft||80 + 100 g/m²||Arato 15||All Round||Trim||335 g / 11.8 oz||?|
|Mountain Hardwear GW/2 (Men's - Women's)||28/-2||No||Yes||No||Down||800||85||68,000||N/A||N/A||10D Ripstop Nylon||All Round||Trim||250 g / 8.8 oz||70 cm / 27.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Cerium LT (Men's - Women's)||28/-2||Review||No||Yes||No||Down||850||102||86,700||Coreloft||80 + 100 g/m²||Arato 10||All Round||Trim||305 g / 10.8 oz||72 cm / 28.3 in|
|Arc'teryx Nuclei FL (Men's - Women's)||32/0||Review||No||Yes||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||65 g/m²||Arato 10r||Climbing||Trim||325 g / 11.5 oz||75 cm / 29.5 in|
|Patagonia DAS Light (Men's - Women's)||34/1||No||Yes||Yes||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||PlumaFill||65 g||0.8-oz 10-denier Pertex Quantum Pro||Climbing||Regular||320 g / 11.3 oz||77 cm / 30.5 in|
|Patagonia Micro Puff (Men's - Women's)||36/2||Review||No||Yes||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||PlumaFill||65 g||Pertex Quantum||All Round||Trim||298 g / 10.5 oz||75 cm / 29.5 in|
|Patagonia Isthmus (Men's)||36/2||No||No||No||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||ThermoGreen||60 g||4.2 oz polyester||Around Town||Regular||895 g / 1 lb 15.6 oz||70 cm / 27.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Proton LT (Men's - Women's)||37/3||Review||No||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||80 g/m2 + 60 g/m2||Fortius Air 20||Climbing||Trim||375 g / 13.2 oz||75 cm / 29.4 in|
|Patagonia Nano Puff (Men's - Women's)||37/3||Review||No||Yes||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||PrimaLoft Gold Insulation Eco||60 g||22D Polyester||All Round||Regular||363 g / 12.8 oz||71.5 cm / 28 in|
|Arc'teryx Norvan SL Ins. (Men's - Women's)||39/4||No||Yes||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||40 g/m²||Gore-Tex ShakeDry||Running||Trim||270 g / 9.5 oz||71.5 cm / 28.1 in|
|Patagonia Nano Air (Men's - Women's)||41/5||Review||No||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||FullRange||60 g||33D Nylon ripstop||All Round||Trim||318 g / 11.2 oz||?|
|Arc'teryx Atom LT (Men's - Women's)||43/6||Review||Yes, mesh||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Continuous||60 g/m²||20D Tyono||All Round||Trim||375 g / 13.2 oz||74 cm / 29.1 in|
|Arc'teryx Cerium SL (Men's - Women's)||43/6||Review||No||Yes||No||Down||850||58||49,300||Coreloft||40 + 100 g/m²||Arato 7||All Round||Trim||215 g / 7.6 oz||69 cm / 27.2 in|
|Arc'teryx Proton Hybrid (Men's - Women's)||46/8||Review||No||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||40 g/m²||Fortius™ Air 50||All Round||Trim||365 g / 12.9 oz||?|
|Arc'teryx Proton FL (Men's)||48/9||Review||No||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Octa Loft||94 g/m²||Fortius Air 20||Climbing||Trim||323 g / 11.4 oz||77 cm / 30.4 in|
|Arc'teryx Atom SL (Men's - Women's)||52/11||Review||Yes, mesh||No||No||Synthetic||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft Compact||40 g/m²||20D Tyono||All Round||Trim||245 g / 8.6 oz||72 cm / 28.3 in|
|REI Stormhenge Hybrid (Men's - Women's)||Testing||Yes, zips||No||No||Down||850||?||N/A||N/A||40D + 80D||All Round||Regular||900 g / 1 lb 15.75 oz||80 cm / 31.5 in|
|Arc'teryx Monitor Insulated (Women's)||Testing||No||No||Yes||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft||80 + 100 g/m²||40D 3L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Oversized||645 g / 1 lb 6.8 oz||93 cm / 37 in|
|Arc'teryx Coelle (Women's)||Testing||No||No||Yes||Parka||N/A||N/A||N/A||Coreloft||80 + 140 g/m²||40D 2L Gore-Tex||Around Town||Regular||460 g / 1 lb 0.2 oz||93 cm / 37 in|
Fortius 2.0 of MX performs better against wind, though the LT's Wee Burly doesn't fall too much behind. They both top the soft-shells in this department, with MX being slightly superior to the LT.
As you can guess by now, the weakest model in this category is our streamlined, lightest model SL.
Durability, which goes parallel to the weather protection in shells in most cases, isn't any different here. But the amount of how much they differ play out differently in this case:
- MX is superior to LT but not by a large amount. But the LT is superior to the SL by a large amount.
None of them are waterproof, although they are water resistant.
The watertight zippers (mainly used in Gore-Tex designs) in their softshells are identical to those in hardshells - which may give the impression that Arc’teryx softshells are waterproof - whereas they are not in reality.
They, however, are DWR coated.
DWR is a coating.
It's basically sprayed on to the surface of these jackets as a finish. It stands for Durable Water Repellent - which means that water will be repelled under wet conditions instead of soaking into the fabric.
DWR also decreases dry time.
It's a good thing these jackets are coated in DWR, but pay attention to the fact that DWR is a coating - meaning that it will wear off over time.
Which is why you might want to invest in a DWR spray such as this one for after treatment.
As you see, there's a strong correlation between FP x FW and temperature ratings, but not more than, say, 80%. I explained why this happens here in this post of mine.
Which will help with light rain and moisture - but won't make a difference under anything more severe.
None of these Gamma pieces are insulated. So they will not provide real warmth.
Fleece lined interior and the baggier nature of the Gamma MX will help with the warmth a bit.
But it would be the best not to have any warmth expectations when looking for shell jackets.
If you want warmth, consider getting a good Arc'teryx mid-layer such as this one.
Fit and Length
Gamma SL offers the trimmest fitting.
Gamma LT and MX comes with regular fit, and sits pretty much identically to the body.
At 30 inches (76 cm), the Gamma LT is the longest. MX and SL are identical here at 29.1 inches (74 cm).
Recommended base and mid layers for Gamma MX and LT
For a base layer I would suggest Arc'teryx's Rho - either this synthetic model or this wool model.
This or this fleece would also be reasonable mid-layers.
Go for the Gamma SL if you want trimmest fit in the body and hood, if you're OK with just two hand warmer zippers, and if you want something super light (11 oz or 310 g)! Go for Gamma MX if you want to maximize durability, want additional chest pockets and want helmet compatibility. If you want something in between, get the LT.
- Gamma SL vs LT vs MX comparison page: https://arcteryx.com/us/en/compare/X000005427-revel/X000007065-black/X000006375-black%20sapphire
- Arc'teryx Jacket Finder: https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/jacket-finder
Mika Riikonen says
Thanks for the comparison!
I have been thinking a non-hooded jacket by A’ryx for everyday casual use. You write that you would not prefer the Gamma series for such use.
So, what would you recommend? I am seeking a jacket for temperatures between roughly 8-18 C, and I am tall and slender. So a baggy jacket is a no-no…
Looking forward to see your recommendation….
Thanks – Mika
Thank you for your comment Mika!
I wouldn’t get an insulated jacket at the temperature range you mentioned as you risk overheating. I’d recommend a shell jacket, and probably the Solano (read review here).
Mika Riikonen says
I purchased both the Solano and Gamma LT (no hood) from a vendor which grants free return shipping. Both jackets in size Large.
I am not a skinny but a slim guy, not very muscular. My measures are 191 cm (height), 108 cm (chest) and 101 (waist, measured around belly-button).
The Solano was really odd in sizing. While the jacket was starting to be slightly tight on my narrow shoulders, it was wide already on the chest and very baggy on the waist. Sleeves were some 3 cm too short for me. Note that this jacket is also quite short in length. So, a no-go for me…
The Gamma LT is a nice fit for me. Perfect on the shoulders and not too loose on the chest/waist. Sleeves are perfect in length for me. I also prefer to have length in the back of a jacket. I am still, however, pondering whether to keep it or not. The inside chest pocket is just ridiculous. Maybe it can house a credit card or keys – or a mini-sized wallet. But otherwise, this jacket looks great on my slim body.
Ryan Matson says
You had this section and curious what they jacket you’d recommend for this. “In short, if your main intent is casual wear around town on chilly nights, then MX is the better option – although Gamma wouldn’t be my go-to product line for this type of use.”
Looking for around town as well as going to football games in November.
Mika Riikonen says
By the way… there should be 11 comments, but I cannot access them by clicking the Commnets tab. If I right-click and select “Open page in new window”, it takes me back to this page…
Hi Mika, thank you for your comment!
Our site counts the ping-backs as comments as well, hence creating a confusion. All the comments that take place actually do get listed after clicking on “Load Comments” button. And sometimes, there aren’t any.
Brian Plegge` says
This analysis is 100% correct. I’ve spent multiple days in the mountains above 5,000 meters. This jacket is not for unpredictable harsh conditions. I use a Beta AR as my shell for that. However, the Gamma MX is perfect for skiing on cold days in the mountains worn over an insulated jacket. Don’t have to worry about rain because its too cold, and the brushed lining adds some warmth to those days below 10 degrees. The softshell feels great, doesnt crinkle, makes no noise and has plenty of pockets. The hood fits over a helmet easily.
Gary Bernfeld says
I’ve enjoyed reading your comparisons of Arcteryx products and want to stick with their items in future!!
1. I’d like to get an Arcteryx Softshell to ear around town but it needs to be good to -20C for going for short walks & using it to go to/from the car. I wear a midlayer in winter. I need it to work in rain and snow too. Not for use in high output activities, so no need for pit zips, etc., like in my Theta hardshell jacket
I had thought of the Gamma MX, but wanted your input too, as you had concerns about it for casual use.