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MSR Whisperlite Universal Review

In my opinion, whatever Whisperlite Universal slightly lacks in power compared to Dragonfly, it makes up in its versatility, simple design and ease of use. Without doubt I would choose Whisperlite Universal over the Dragonfly. It’s lighter and more compact.

• Data Set: Backpacking Stoves

	Jetboil Minimo   Read Review	MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Read Review	Jetboil Micromo Read Review	Jetboil Flash Read Review	MSR Whisperlite Universal Read Review	MSR Whisperlite International Read Review	MSR Dragonfly Read Review
Overall Score	91/100	87/100	87/100	81/100	76/100	74/100	72/100
	Jetboil Minimo	MSR Pocket Rocket 2	Jetboil Micromo	Jetboil Flash	MSR Whisperlite Universal	MSR Whisperlite International	MSR Dragonfly
Best for	All-around, fuel efficient uses for precision cooking and boiling water (even in wind)	Ultralight uses	Top alternative to Minimo	Those who will boil water ONLY in non-windy conditions	Multiple fuel compatibility (White Gas, Kerosene, Unleaded Gasoline, Canister)
	Jetboil Minimo	MSR Pocket Rocket 2	Jetboil Micromo	Jetboil Flash	MSR Whisperlite Universal	MSR Whisperlite International	MSR Dragonfly
Pros	Fuel efficient, amazing simmering, compact and light, fast boiling, great in the wind, incredibly versatile	Extremely light and compact, great at simmering, easy to use & simple	Designed identical to Minimo (except the pot)	Extremely fast boiling, completely packs up in to one small unit, light	Variety of fuels, quiet, versatile, durable	Lighter, more simple use than Dragonfly, quiet, durable	Windscreen, great at simmering, very powerful, durable
	Jetboil Minimo	MSR Pocket Rocket 2	Jetboil Micromo	Jetboil Flash	MSR Whisperlite Universal	MSR Whisperlite International	MSR Dragonfly
Cons	4.7 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, can be "overkill" for some	Considerably less fuel efficient than Minimo, not for wind, boils slower, small pot size	2.1 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, small pot size, worse than Minimo in the wind	Can't simmer, redundant features, not for wind	Bad at simmering, less compact	Bad at simmering, no canister fuel, less compact	Very loud, no canister fuel, heavy, less compact
Fuel Canis-ters  (bought sepera-tely)	Jetpower	IsoPro	Jetpower	Jetpower	IsoPro	IsoPro	IsoPro

Lastly, this stove at REI seems to be a solid alternative to MSR and Jetboil, but I'm yet to review it. 

You also get the option to choose liquid fuel and canister fuel with Whisperlite Universal, which would make it my go to for both shorter getaways and longer trails.

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MSR Dragonfly Review

The truth is, Dragonfly is just too loud and bulky for the wilderness. While it’s certainly powerful, durable and great for complicated meals, you can achieve the same results with the Whisperlite Universal.

You might still want to consider Dragonfly if you don’t really care about the noise and you're going to cook for large groups and want really easy simmer control. 

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Now let's get down to the bolts and nuts.

Types of Fuel

This is one of the best thing about these stoves. They're compatible with a lot of types of fuels - especially Whisperlite Universal.

Camping stoves are classified depending on the types of fuels they use. The three main groups are liquid fuel, pressurized canister and alcohol stoves [1]. They each have their ups and downs. We are interested in the two liquid fuel stoves: MSR Dragonfly and MSR Whisperlite. Liquid fuel stoves are generally more durable than the alternatives, they are also way more powerful both in terms of how fast and how much they provide heat. Even though canister fuels are great they don’t perform as well in colder weather as they sometimes sputter when the temperatures drop. This isn't an issue for liquid fuel and it provides you with constant, reliable heating power [2].

Typically the main fuel source for liquid gas stoves is white gas. It's a naphtha product and it's a liquid (unlike the name).

The real advantage in the fuel type category belongs to MSR Whisperlite Universal, while the previous Whisperlite models didn’t have this feature, Universal can also use canister fuel. Canister fuel is pressurized isobutane and propane. The big advantage canister fuel has over liquids is that it doesn’t require priming, preheating or pumping! If you prefer using butane canisters, make sure you read my post about the things you should know about butane canisters as a hiker.

We’ve been discussing it as a liquid gas stove but it’s officially classified as a hybrid fuel stove! You have the option of taking canisters to your weekend getaway and liquid fuels to a colder and longer trip.

MSR has this great introductory video on how to use liquid gas stoves. If you're inexperienced with them, you might want to check it out:

Technical Properties

The top two technical properties of a stove is how fast it boils/heats and how much fuel it uses [4]. The two key words are fast and efficient. We will compare them on the basis of three properties: burn time, boil time and water boiled.

Burn Time is the time the stove can produce a flame per 20 oz. of fuel. The Dragonfly does better when used with white gas, beating Whisperlite Universal 126 to 110 minutes. They are about the same for kerosene with the Whisperlite lasting slightly longer by two minutes. Dragonfly comes with the option of diesel and Whisperlite comes with the option of MSR IsoPro.

The second criteria is boil time, it’s the time it takes to boil 1 liter of water from room temperature to 100°C. Both Dragonfly and Whisperlite Universal do this in 3.5 minutes for white gas. Dragonfly produces better results of 3.9 minutes compared to Whisperlite’s 4.4 minutes for kerosene. Both of these products are not as fast but more efficient when used with kerosene. They take longer to boil but fuel also lasts longer.

Lastly, when the water boiled per 1 oz. of fuel is compared. Dragonfly also does slightly better by boiling more for the given fuel. Dragonfly can boil 1.6-1.7 liters of water per 1 oz. of fuel. Whisperlite boils only 1.3 liters for white gas but can boil 1.8 liters per MSR IsoPro (canister fuel).

When we take a lot at these technical specs, we see that MSR Dragonfly is more powerful and faster. However, note that both of these stoves are really powerful and dependable when used in colder temperatures.

Size and Weight

First thing to note: Neither of these stoves are truly lightweight. They aren't necessarily for a solo backpacker but more for car camping, a large group or an expedition. Dragonfly is 1 lbs. 1.8 oz. and Whisperlite is 14.9 oz. This isn’t an insignificant weight when you're backpacking and every ounce counts. However, the Whisperlite is slightly lighter - meaning a slight advantage over the other. I'd recommend you to know how to pack your backpack the optimal way because you probably aren’t going to find a lighter hybrid/liquid gas stove than Whisperlite Universal (except other Whisperlites!).

Another thing to note on the weight department is that, even though these stoves are heavier, you get to control the amount of fuel you carry. Unlike canisters where you have carry in discrete units even if they are almost empty, the liquid fuel tanks are refillable. You have the option to fill it up the exact amount you need. MSR Blog has a good article about it here.

Maintenance

Another great aspect of these two are that they are field-serviceable meaning that you can take care of any issue that arises in minutes. They are easier to take apart, clean and reassemble than other stoves.

If you're using diesel, kerosene or unleaded auto fuel that weren’t intended for stoves, certain small particles might clog the pipes. Both Dragonfly and Whisperlite Universal are made with ShakerJet technology which is essentially a needle you can shake to clean the insides of the stove. 

There are detailed instructions and videos on the MSR website and on their YouTube channel for detailed maintenance tips. Both of these stoves also come with an instruction manual that details how to properly use and take care of your valuable stove. 

You can checkout the maintenance video for DragonFly:

There is a similar style maintenance video for Whisperlite Universal and International:

These two stoves are quite similar in terms of how easy it is to take care of both them. These beasts are really built to last you for over 20 years and with proper care they would.

Noise

We didn’t think noise would be a point in comparison for fuel stoves – but it is! The MSR Dragonfly is loud, like really loud. It’s almost not even possible to have a conversation when the Dragonfly is in full blast. In comparison, the MSR Whisperlite sounds like a “whisper”.

The loudness of MSR Dragonfly can really annoy your fellow campers after a long day on the trail. Especially when you are in the middle of the woods, trying to escape the chaos and sounds of the city the last thing you want is the sound of a roaring fuel stove.

I personally think this is actually an important point and Dragonfly really gets some negative points for this problem. However, if you are going to use it in an environment where the noise doesn’t matter that much and or the power of the stove is the determining factor Dragonfly is still a great option.

Design and Abilities

The designs of Dragonfly an Whisperlite are quite different and even though they can perform similar tasks interchangeably, they excel in different things. First of all, both of them are larger than other stoves which creates a more stable cooking setup. Especially if you have larger pots and pans that you use for your group both of them stay stable on the ground. Dragonfly especially is very stable due to its tripod shape and large legs. You can also check my best backpacking frying pans post to see which one would work for your stove or open fire.

This is a major plus for Whisperlite Universal because other stoves that use canister fuel tend to perform pretty badly with wind as they usually don’t have - and can’t be used with - windshields.

The best ability of Dragonfly is its ability to simmer, the dual valve at the side allows you to control the heat just like your stove at home. It’s possible to cook a variety of meals ranging from pizzas to sauteed vegetables. While instant noodles is enough for a day trip, eating a range of meals becomes more important if you're on an expedition or if you're camping for fun with friends and want a bit more luxury. Whisperlite Universal is also pretty good at simmering especially when used in canister mode. However, for good simmering and flame control when used with liquids you need to master the technique a bit.

Whisperlite Universal may not have the large legs but it also has stainless steel tripod legs that are very stable. Not having the bulky legs means that it becomes more compact when packing. It also has great pot rests with grippy teeth that prevent anything from sliding down. This is a great improvement from the previous editions of Whisperlite.

Conclusion

In my opinion, whatever Whisperlite Universal slightly lacks in power compared to Dragonfly, it makes up in its versatility, simple design and ease of use. Without doubt I would choose Whisperlite Universal over the Dragonfly. It’s lighter and more compact. You also get the option to choose liquid fuel and canister fuel with Whisperlite Universal, which would make it my go to for both shorter getaways and longer trails.

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The truth is, Dragonfly is just too loud and bulky for the wilderness. While it’s certainly powerful, durable and great for complicated meals, you can achieve the same results with the Whisperlite Universal. You might still want to consider Dragonfly if you don’t really care about the noise and you're going to cook for large groups and want really easy simmer control.

Below video for Whisperlite Universal from MSR can also be a good watch for this comparison:

And this one for Dragonfly:

MSR Whisperlite International vs Universal

Simply put: MSR Whisperlite Universal can do everything that MSR Whisperlite International does and it can also be used with canister fuel. I think this is a great feature because while liquid fuels are stronger and more efficient, canister fuels are easier to use and need no priming. For quicker getaways and smaller groups canister fuels might be the better choice. 

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There's also Whisperlite Classic that we didn’t discuss here. It’s slightly heavier than Universal and International and it can only burn white gas. While it's really a classic that deserves the fame, the newer models improve on the classic and are the better choice. The classic also doesn’t have the jagged wire potholders and other design improvements.

This is why this comparison was based on MSR Whisperlite Universal instead of International or Classic. However, you can see the overall features of International on the comparison chart in the introduction.