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Best Backpacking Mess Kit

Last updated: August 17, 2022 by Canberk Koksal

Imagine this:

You just reached your campground after a 8 hour hike with a 40-lbs pack, you're hungry and just want to fry up some food. You want your pan to be quick to heat and cook evenly and clean easily. I’ve had experiences with some rubbish pans that were okay to cook with but a pain in the a** to clean.

Having a good mess kit (or a cook set) is a lifesaver. Whether you’re on the trail or on a camping trip with a group of friends, what you eat determines your mood, which can be the most fun or the most dreaded part of camping - depending on your equipment.

Table of Contents
GSI Pinnacle Camper Cookset
GSI Pinnacle vs Bugaboo
MSR Quick 2 System Cook Set
GSI Pinnacle Backpacker Cookset
Snow Peak Titanium Multi Compact Cookset
Winterial Camping Cookware and Pot Set
How to choose the right mess kit for you?
Do you really need a mess kit?
What are the criteria for choosing?
What’s in it?
Versatility
Material
Compactness and Weight
Caring and Cleaning
References

In this article we take a look at 5 different mess kits and compare them on their materials, size and what they include.

But before we get to the bolts and nuts of mess kits, here's a quick summary:

The best overall option is the complete GSI Pinnacle Camper set, which has everything you could ever need. Best one for 2 backpackers is MSR Quick 2 System Cookset because of its versatility, it’s a great set that will last you many years of backpacking and camping. Next is the backpacking version of Pinnacle Camper, that is, GSI Pinnacle Backpacker, while this set has the same high quality materials and design, I'd prefer to get the Camper and leave a few items at home. Snow Peak Titanium Cookset is the ultralight hikers dream with only 11.2 oz weight. Finally Winterial Camping Cookware | $39.99 is a great beginners option that has a durable pot and pan with lots of small accessories.

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For their details and best uses, check out the chart below. If you're only looking for a backpacking frying pan, check out this article of mine.

  • Cool info but I wish I didn't have to cook man...

I've got you covered! Check out my article for no cook, no refrigeration camping foods.

After this chart, you'll find everything I've laid out in detail which I think can be important when you're considering buying one.

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GSI Pinnacle Camper

MSR Quick 2 System Cook Set

GSI Pinnacle Backpacker

Snow Peak Trek 1400 Titanium Cookset

Winterial Camping Cookware and Pot Set

Overall Score

88/100
87/100
82/100
78/100
68/100

GSI Pinnacle Camper

MSR Quick 2 System Cook Set

GSI Pinnacle Backpacker

Snow Peak Trek 1400 Titanium Cookset

Winterial Camping Cookware and Pot Set

Best for

...those who are looking for a complete backpacking mess kit

...two backpackers

Cell

...ultralighters

...beginners

GSI Pinnacle Camper

MSR Quick 2 System Cook Set

GSI Pinnacle Backpacker

Snow Peak Trek 1400 Titanium Cookset

Winterial Camping Cookware and Pot Set

Pros

Has everything, high quality nonstick, durable

Versatile, no metal-to-metal contact, durable

Alternative to Pinnacle Camper: High quality nonstick and durable

Extremely light, compact, simple

Includes kettle, lightweight

Cons

Bulky and heavy

Not the best for more than 2, a bit heavy for backpacking

For most, there's no reason to buy this one instead of Pinnacle Camper

Need to be treated gently, can be small for some

Accessories unnecessary, low quality nonstick (may scratch)

GSI Pinnacle Camper

MSR Quick 2 System Cook Set

GSI Pinnacle Backpacker

Snow Peak Trek 1400 Titanium Cookset

Winterial Camping Cookware and Pot Set

What's in it?

  • 3L Pot
  • 2L Pot
  • 9” Fry Pan
  • 2 Strainer lids
  • 4 Plates
  • 4 Bowls
  • 4 Mugs with sippy tops
  • Wash Basin
  • 1.5L non-stick pot
  • 2.5L pot
  • Strainer lid
  • Plates
  • 2 Mugs with sippy tops
  • Pot Handle
    • 2L Pot
    • 8” Fry Pan
    • Strainer Lid
    • 2 Bowls
    • 2 Mugs with sippy tops
    • Wash Basin
    • 1L Pot
    • 0.78L Pot
    • 17 oz Fry Pan
    • 12 oz Fry Pan
    • 1.9L Pot
    • Fry Pan
    • Tea kettle
    • Bowl
    • Serving spoon
    • Spatula
    • Cleaning sponge
    • Carry bag

    Material

    Hard Anodized Aluminum & PolyPropylene

    Hard Anodized Aluminum & PolyPropylene

    Hard Anodized Aluminum & PolyPropylene

    Titanium

    Aluminum Oxide with Teflon Coating

    Now let's get to the individual reviews.

    GSI Pinnacle Camper Cookset

    • Weight: 3.63 lbs 
    • Size: 9.1 x 9.1 x 5.8 in
    • Includes: 3-liter pot, 2-liter pot, 9" frypan, 2 nylon strainer lids, four 14 fl. oz. insulated mugs, four 14 fl. oz. bowls, four 7.5" plates, 4 sip through lids, a folding pot handle, and a stuff sack/welded sink

    All of these items fit inside the large pot.

    GSI Pinnacle Camper is perfect for up to groups of 4 and it has everything you could need. The set has almost everything, so you can cook anything.

    Volume wise, the two 3L and 2L pots are great for cooking for 4. There are plates, bowls and mugs with sippy tops for everyone and they are all color coded. No more mixing mugs or eating from the wrong plate.

    When the set is packed everything fits neatly into the 3L pot and can be stowed in the stuff sack. Even the stuff sack doubles as a wash basin. The coating of the sack allows you to fill it up with water and a little bit of soap to easily wash your set without wasting water.

    What I really like about this set is that the quality of each of the products. The pots and pan are made of hard anodized aluminum that is more durable and efficient than regular aluminum. The fry pan also has Teflon Radiance non stick coating that is scratch resistant and durable.

    The handle can attach securely to each of these items. The plates and bowls are made of polypropylene that is heat resistant and is even dishwasher safe!

    This set definitely offers the most versatility for your cooking. You could cook almost everything you would be able to cook at home with test set. My only concern would be that once you fill up the 3L pot it gets quite heavy and lifting it with a single handle is challenging.

    Of course the other downside of this set is that it’s quite heavy but it’s not designed for anyone to take to a solo backpacking trip! If you’re with less than 4 people you can leave few items at home and decrease the weight.

    This set is very versatile as you can use it with a group of friends (up to 4, or even 5) on a comfortable camping trip while having a great meal or having a small cocktail after dinner while playing my top verbal campfire games in the night!

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    GSI Pinnacle vs Bugaboo

    One of the most common comparison is made between Pinnacle and Bugaboo models of GSI.

    GSI Bugaboo Camper has the exact same appearance and design as the GSI Pinnacle Camper but the quality of the materials are slightly different. Both the pot and especially the fry pan of Pinnacle has a better quality. The non-stick material used in Bugaboo is regular teflon whereas the coating on Pinnacle is teflon radiance. 

    While both of them perform quite well at the beginning, the increased technology of the Pinnacle series makes it the better choice for long term. Also, the pot from Pinnacle boils water much faster. The other materials of the set are identical. For these reasons I think GSI Pinnacle Camper is the much better set and that is why I included that one in the review.

    MSR Quick 2 System Cook Set

    • Weight: 1 lbs 12 oz
    • Size: 7.75 x 7.75 x 5 in
    • Includes: 1.5L hard-anodized non-stick aluminum pot, 2.5L hard-anodized aluminum pot, strainer lid, 2 deep dish plates, 2 insulated mugs, pot handle

    All of these items fit inside the large pot.

    This beautiful set by MSR is perfect for two both for backpacking or car-camping. The set contains two pots: one 1.5L hard-anodized non-stick aluminum pot and one 2.5L hard-anodized aluminum pot. There are also two 0.3L mugs and two 0.75L deep plates that double as bowls.

    The lid of the pots doubles as a strainer and it even has a small latch that prevents the lid from falling off during straining. The talon pot handle folds on top two secure the packed pot and it can also detach to be used with the smaller pot.

    The non-stick 1.5L pot can also be used to fry things without going crazy trying to clean the surface. The plates of this set also double as bowls due to how deep they are. I think this versatility of this set is the best part.

    At first glance you might be wondering why are the plates plastic, doesn’t that make them less durable? However, I realized that there is really cool reason behind this. Besides decreasing the overall weight, the plastic plates protect the two pans from scratching each other. None of the metal parts in this set touch each other making the overall set pretty long lasting.

    All of the items in this set nest perfectly. The only thing missing I would say are two sets of cutlery. But if you have foldable sporks, they could easily fit inside the mugs. Another great news, if you think this set lacks a frying pan, it can nest in the inside of MSR Quick Skillet that I reviewed here.

    This great set is my top choice for 2 because of its ease of use and versatility. Almost all of the items serve dual purposes and everything packs into the 2.5L pot super compactly. For people who can’t choose between backpacking and luxury camping MSR Quick 2 System is the perfect sweet spot.

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    GSI Pinnacle Backpacker Cookset

    • Weight: 1.8 lbs
    • Size: 8.2 x 8.2 x 5.4 in
    • Includes: 2-liter pot, 8” frypan, a nylon strainer lid, 2 insulated mugs, 2 sip through lids, 2 nesting bowls, a folding pot handle, and stuff/sink sack

    In the “backpacker” version of GSI Pinnacle, you get the same quality items as the “camper” version but you get a more compact and lightweight set. This set only has the 2L pot and a smaller 8 inch version of the Teflon Radiance coated non-stick fry pan. 

    It also has two bowls, two insulated mugs with sippy tops and a lid that functions as a strainer. The lid has the orange tab to easily pick it up and silicone sides that protect the sides of the pot.

    While this set is smaller and almost half the weight of GSI Pinnacle Camper it’s still borderline heavy for backpacking. Just like MSR Quick 2 System, this set transitions easily from car camping to backpacking. For the added weight, you definitely get a lot of comfort. Having a luxurious set allows you to cook faster, eat better and clean easier after a long hike.

    If you’re interested, this set has just enough space to also fit the GSI Crossover Kitchen Kit, which is available on Amazon. For an extra 6 lbs you get a cutting board, towel, soap bottle, scrubby pad, tongs, spoon, spatula, spicer, oil bottle and a tote bag that fits all of these. In my opinion none of these are necessities for backpacking but they’re very convenient luxuries while car camping.

    You could also use the leftover space to your liking, it’s a bit oddly shaped so you wouldn’t be able to fit a canister there but other stove accessories might fit.

    While this set is also pretty great, I'd go for GSI Pinnacle Camper and just create my own set for backpacking. Of course, it doesn’t pack as compactly as the backpacker does but it gives you more options. My suggestion would be to go with the camper if you frequently camp with 4 people and go with this one if you exclusively camp with 2.

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    Snow Peak Titanium Multi Compact Cookset

    • Weight: 11.6 oz
    • Size: 6.2 x 4 in
    • Includes: A 47 fl. oz. (1.4 liter) titanium pot, a small titanium fry pan and a nylon mesh storage sack

    It’s unbelievable how lightweight this set is! With only 0.75 lbs extra in your pack you get two pots and two lids that double as fry pans and plates. If you’re an ultralight hiker that doesn’t want to eat trail mix for a week this is your set.

    A quick warning before we get into the details: this set isn’t for beginners. There is no non-stick coating on this set. While the titanium is super lightweight and you don’t have to worry about any chemicals leaching into your food, you have to be careful not to burn your food. You have to be quite gentle during cooking and cleaning. I would also recommend using a generous amount of oil during frying things.

    Titanium really excels when you boil things because of how fast it conducts heat. However, it also forms hot spots making it not the best choice for frying. However, if you’re an ultralight hiker you’re probably not preparing super fancy meals so it still works out nicely. Another plus this set has is that you can fit a small canister (110g) inside the small pot while you pack. You might also want to include a set of cutlery and it should fit inside small pot. 

    I don’t love the handles of these pans because they are also made of metal but it’s neat that each item has its own handle. I understand that these simple handles are for decreasing the weight and bulk. If the pot handle gets too hot you can use a rag to hold it.

    One last thing that might become a problem is that this set is quite small. If you're with more than two people it will definitely be too small. So maybe just consider this set for a solo or duo trip. For a short solo trip you can also just take the small pot and fry pan for an even lighter set!

    Best option out there for ultralighter folks.

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    Winterial Camping Cookware and Pot Set

    • Weight: 1.5 lbs
    • Size: 6.75 x 6.75 x 3.5 in
    • Includes: 1.9L pot, fry pan, tea kettle, bowl, serving spoon, spatula, cleaning sponge, carry bag

    This set contains a bunch of interesting items. It has the classics like a 1.9L pot with a lid and a high-walled fry pan. It also has a convenient teapot, soup ladle, bowl, spoon, spatula, cleaning sponge and a carry bag. While the main items of the set are of a durable aluminum oxide with teflon coating, the quality of the accessories are questionable.

    As a serious tea and coffee drinker I love the addition of a teapot. I know that you can also boil water in pot with a lid but this is so much more convenient. Boiling water in a kettle is both faster than a pot and pouring the water into your cup is easier. However, I would have liked it more if the set had an insulated mug instead of the other random stuff.

    Honestly, some of the accessories this set comes with are a bit unnecessary. What am I supposed to use that tiny bowl for? I would get rid of the cheap plastic ladle, spoon, cup etc. and use the space inside the kettle to store a small stove. However, you can take the full set on your first trip and see what you use for yourself. Even though I enjoyed the tea kettle, you could make a much lighter set without it.

    Overall I think this is a great set for beginners to try out cooking outdoors and see what they use and what they don’t. Starting out with a decent set is much better than getting a cheap plastic set that will fall apart in the middle of a trip.

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    How to choose the right mess kit for you?

    Do you really need a mess kit?

    Okay, this is the main question you should ask yourself and there are a few others. How long will you be camping for? Are you hiking or just camping? How many people are you with? How important is having a good meal?

    If you’re hiking an intense trail by yourself, carrying a mess kit might feel like too much. You could always just eat dried or canned foods. I have an in-depth article on no cook foods on the trail foods on the trail.

    No cook doesn’t just mean crackers and trail mix, there are many different types of cheeses and meats you could take without refrigeration. Of course there is also the hiking classic: peanut butter, energy and happiness in a bite.

    Of course you could also opt to eat less and try out some techniques to feel fuller on the trail but having a good snack and meal is what keeps me going on long days of hiking. Eating a warm cooked meal after a long day of activities is definitely more satisfying. Especially if you’re with a group cooking becomes one of the main social activities.

    What are the criteria for choosing?

    What’s in it?

    There is no clear definition on what a mess kit should include but they usually have pot, some of fry pan and/or bowls, plates, mugs etc. You could also choose to collect these items on their own and build your own mess kit but there is no guarantee that they will pack perfectly as pre-arranged ones. I’m still amazed at how GSI Pinnacle Camper packs the way it does.

    Buying a pre-made mess kit can also be cheaper than buying individual items. However, if you know that you only need a fry pan for a good meal go for that instead. A pre-made mess kit is also great for beginners that have no experience cooking outdoors. This way you can test out what you actually use.

    There is also the customizing option. You take out or add things to your mess kit. For example depending on how many people you’re with you might not need all 4 of those mugs or that extra pot. You could also fit butane canisters or stoves inside the sets if there is space left.

    There is also such a thing as too much when it comes to mess kits. Winterial Camping Cookware has many small accessories that are not essential. Even though the set is already pretty lightweight you could make it lighter by taking them out.

    None of these sets come with cutlery, you can add a spork for versatility. You might also want 1-2 water bottles and a thermos depending on the season. You can check out my review of water bottles.

    Versatility

    While specialized items are sometimes surprisingly useful like the tea kettle of Winterial Camping Cookware, it’s very important to have multi-use tools while camping. The models from GSI and MSR have lids that double as strainers. The small pot from MSR Quick 2 System has a non-stick surface so it doubles as a fry pan. The fry pans from Snow Peak Cookset double as the lids for the pots. And the most surprising of them all the stuff sack from GSI Pinnacle Camper doubles as a wash basin!

    In terms of versatility my favourite is MSR Quick 2 System because almost every item serves multiple purposes. The lid is a strainer. The small pot is also a fry pan. The plates have very deep walls that allow them to be used as plates. The handle can attach to both the pots and the mugs can be used to store extra food. In my opinion this set is also the best at transitioning from backpacking to car camping.

    It’s all about hitting that sweet spot between comfort and weight. The more functions a single item serves the less you have to carry. That’s why a swiss army knife is the best tool for campers.

    Material

    There are three main materials used in cookware: aluminum, titanium and stainless steel. The accents may be different types of plastic or silicone. They each have their perks.

    Snow Peak Multi Compact Cookset is made of titanium which is the highest quality material on the market. It’s extremely lightweight and you don’t get a metallic flavor in your food after you’ve used it. Titanium is also a quite durable material because doesn’t rust!

    Stainless steel is the most durable and there are no health concerns. However, it’s also the heaviest so it’s not the best idea to take a full stainless steel set backpacking. Another perk of stainless steel is that you can probably use it over open fires like a campfire. If you won't use them on the open fire though, check out my backpacking stove comparison articles, especially Jetboil Minimo vs Flash and Jetboil Minimo vs MSR Pocket Rocket.

    Aluminum is the most frequently used material in cooksets. Most modern aluminum sets are made of hard anodized aluminum which is 3 times more durable than regular. In frying pans, aluminum is usually coated with high-tech teflon coating. For example the MSR Pinnacle series has Teflon Radiance coating that is scratch resistant and very durable. This is the best choice for the perfect scrambled egg.

    Compactness and Weight

    Comparing GSI Pinnacle Camper and Snow Peak Cookset feels like comparing apples and oranges. One is a 3.63 lbs set that has almost everything you could need and more, and one is a minimalist set that only adds 11.6 oz more to your pack.

    Depending on whether you go on long backpacking trips or camp out of car more often the correct mess kit for you changes. If you do all sorts of activities and want a mess kit that will be suitable for all of them, I would recommend MSR Quick 2 System Cook Set. I think it’s the most versatile and useful. It has enough parts to make you feel comfortable camping but not so bulky that will weight down your pack. You could also always remove a few items from the set to make it more minimalist.

    If you exclusively do backpacking and would like to keep your pack weight to a minimum without sacrificing a warm meal, I'd recommend Snow Peak Cookset. The weight - value ratio is amazing!

    Caring and Cleaning

    It’s a no brainer that taking good care of your gear extends its lifetime. Most of these items are not dishwasher safe except the polypropylene bowls and plates. It’s best not to use hard detergents and steel wool while cleaning. Especially for the ones with non-stick coatings it’s best to stick to water and mild soap.

    Hard-anodized aluminum with teflon coating is quite easy to clean with the wipe of a sponge. However, you should always be careful with non-stick products as they are more likely to scratch. Especially if the set packs metal-on-metal this might damage the set while carrying. That’s why I really like MSR Quick 2 the packing is arranged in such a way that metal only touches plastic. This is definitely a design feature that extends the lifetime of your set.

    The more small parts a set has, the harder it’s to clean and more likely they’re to get lost. For example, it’s very unlikely that you’ll lose any of Snow Peak’s parts but the bowls from Winterial look like they’ll blow away in the next wind.

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    Jetboil Minimo vs MSR Pocket Rocket (1 & 2)

    Last updated: August 19, 2022 by Canberk Koksal

    Jetboil Minimo and MSR Pocket Rocket 2 are both excellent backpacking stoves. Although it's almost impossible to go wrong with either of them, they do have some minor differences worth mentioning.

    • In summary; in terms of fuel efficiency, boil time and versatility; it's a no brainer to get Jetboil Minimo over MSR Pocket Rocket 2.
    • In the weight department, though, including its compatible .75 L pot, Pocket Rocket 2 weighs in at an impressive 9.9 oz, which is 4.7 oz lighter than Minimo. 
    • Lastly, for simmering abilities of these stoves, it's a draw...
    • Don't let the marketed 2.6 oz weight of Pocket Rocket 2 deceive you!

    It's the weight WITHOUT THE POT! That's why, to make this comparison reasonable, in this post I'll review MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Mini Stove Kit (stove + pot), but everything you read is also applicable to the stove only product MSR Pocket Rocket 2 (Stove only) as well.

    In the end, if 4.7 oz of extra weight is very important you AND you're absolutely sure you'd never use your stove in the wind, I'd recommend MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Mini Stove Kit (Stove + Pot). For all others (90% of us), Jetboil Minimo is the way to go.

    • There's absolutely no reason to purchase Pocket Rocket 1 over Pocket Rocket 2

    ...so don't. 2 is the updated model and better in terms of everything.

    Also, product images below can be misleading. NEITHER OF THESE STOVES COME WITH A CANISTER!!! They come with the stove and pot only.

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Overall Score

    91/100
    87/100

    This product is a CrunchPick!: Best Backpacking Stove of 2019

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Best for

    • Those who are looking for the best overall backpacking stove
    • All-around versatile uses
    • Quick boils
    • Fuel efficient uses
    • Uses in the wind
    • Ultralight uses
    • Uses in non-windy conditions
    • Beginner hikers
    • Those who want the stove only (without the pot)

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Pros

    Very fuel efficient, amazing simmering control, completely packs up into the pot, works incredible in the wind, boils faster, perfect cup size (1L), can cook for 2, light

    Extremely light, great at simmering, easy to use & simple, can be purchased without the pot

    Cons

    4.7 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, can be "overkill" for some

    Unstable, less fuel efficient, doesn't work well in the wind, boils slower, smaller pot

    THE NITTY GRITTY

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Total Weight & Pot Volume

    14.6 oz & 1 Liter (larger can be purchased separately)

    9.9 oz & 0.75 Liter (larger can be purchased separately)

    Packed (Pot) Dimensions

    5 in (DIA) x 5.5 in (height)

    4 in (DIA) x 5 in (height)

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Water Boiled

    12 liters per 100 g Jetpower can

    7 liters per 100 g MSR IsoPro can

    Boil Time

    2m 15sec per .5 liter

    3m per .5 liter

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    User Manuals

    User Manual [PDF]

    User Manual [PDF]

    These stoves DON'T come with the canisters

    Jetpower canisters

    100 g size required to pack it into the pot

    MSR IsoPro canister

    100 g size required to pack it into the pot

    Short Summary

    Jetboil Minimo Review

    Jetboil Minimo is one of the most fuel efficient and versatile stoves out there which also offers very fast boiling.

    More, when the perfect conditions are removed and just a tiny bit of wind is added, with the help of its wider burner and FluxRing, it surpasses even the fastest boiling stoves out there.

    If you'd like to read more about this, I also compared it to Jetboil Flash (which holds one of the quickest boil time between all backpacking stoves) and in windy conditions, Minimo even passed Flash!

    • Data Set: Backpacking Stoves

    Jetboil Minimo  

    Read Review

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Read Review

    Jetboil Micromo

    Read Review

    Jetboil Flash

    Read Review

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    Read Review

    MSR Whisperlite International

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    MSR Dragonfly

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    Overall Score

    91/100
    87/100
    87/100
    81/100
    76/100
    74/100
    72/100

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Best for

    All-around, fuel efficient uses for precision cooking and boiling water (even in wind)

    Ultralight uses

    Top alternative to Minimo

    Those who will boil water ONLY in non-windy conditions

    Multiple fuel compatibility (White Gas, Kerosene, Unleaded Gasoline, Canister)

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Pros

    Fuel efficient, amazing simmering, compact and light, fast boiling, great in the wind, incredibly versatile

    Extremely light and compact, great at simmering, easy to use & simple

    Designed identical to Minimo (except the pot)

    Extremely fast boiling, completely packs up in to one small unit, light

    Variety of fuels, quiet, versatile, durable

    Lighter, more simple use than Dragonfly, quiet, durable

    Windscreen, great at simmering, very powerful, durable

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Cons

    4.7 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, can be "overkill" for some

    Considerably less fuel efficient than Minimo, not for wind, boils slower, small pot size

    2.1 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, small pot size, worse than Minimo in the wind

    Can't simmer, redundant features, not for wind

    Bad at simmering, less compact

    Bad at simmering, no canister fuel, less compact

    Very loud, no canister fuel, heavy, less compact

    Fuel Canis-ters 

    (bought sepera-tely)

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    Jetpower

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    Lastly, this stove at REI seems to be a solid alternative to MSR and Jetboil, but I'm yet to review it. 

    You can simmer perfectly well by adjusting the fuel regulator - even in windy conditions (thanks to its wider burner and hence better guard).

    It's not only better than Pocket Rocket 2, but also all the other backpacking stoves out there in 2019. 

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    MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Review

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2 is an amazing ultralight backpacking stove that performs very well for its simple design unless you're out in the wind. 

    While there are some other larger and more complex stoves that can't simmer well (for example, Jetboil Flash) Pocket Rocket 2 does so surprisingly well because MSR didn't half-ass equipping a great fuel regulator to it.

    If weight is the most important factor for you and you're absolutely sure you won't have to use your stove in a windy environment, MSR Pocket Rocket 2 can be an excellent stove for you. 

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    There's a confusion I often see about these stoves, so I'd like to clear that in advance before we get to the bolts and nuts.

    As you see, you can customize both stoves with different cups, canisters and cook sets - but it can be difficult & misleading to understand (especially for MSR Pocket Rocket 2).

    Customization

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    You do have the option to purchase the stove only - which you can't with Jetboil Minimo.

    You also do have the option to purchase the pot only - (which you can also do so with Jetboil Minimo - see below sub-heading). 1.3L and 0.8L respectively (see "Best Pot for MSR Pocket Rocket 2" heading).

    You can also purchase the full kit with the cookware & utensils, BUT IT'S NOT THIS PRODUCT:

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    Because this kit comes with Pocket Rocket 1, NOT POCKET ROCKET 2. Navigate to "Weight and Compactness" heading to see your cook set options in detail.

    All the products mentioned so far nest perfectly well. Customization is better than Jetboil Minimo as you'll see now.

    Jetboil Minimo

    You can get the cups separately (see "Versatility" heading for more info). But unlike Pocket Rocket 2, you can't get the stove of Minimo separately.

    This isn't a disadvantage if you're already looking to buy the stove with the pot though.


    Now let's get down to the bolts and nuts.

    Table of Contents
    Short Summary
    Jetboil Minimo Review
    MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Review
    Customization
    MSR Pocket Rocket 2
    Jetboil Minimo
    Fuel efficiency
    Boiling Speed
    Weight and Compactness
    Weight
    Compactness
    Simmering
    Versatility
    Best Pot for MSR Pocket Rocket 2
    Conclusion
    Product Videos
    References

    Fuel efficiency

    Compared to Pocket Rocket 2, Minimo is almost twice as efficient in terms of fuel consumption. 

    Minimo boils 12 liters of water per 100 g Jetpower can compared to MSR Pocket Rocket's 7 liters of water per 100 g MSR IsoPro can. And the reason behind this difference is Minimo's FluxRing:

    FluxRing technology demonstrated here is located around the burner. It's designed to increase efficiency through increasing the metal surface area by bending them. As a result, less heat provided by the burner is lost to the air and more of it is captured by these extra surface area & delivered to the cup to boil the liquid.

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2 doesn't have a similar technology as its burner is open to the environment.

    Besides fuel efficiency in perfect conditions, this difference also causes the Minimo to outscore Pocket Rocket 2 in windy conditions as well.

    As you see, there is so-called MSR WindClip at the top of the burner which is meant to guard the wind, but to be honest, it fails to make a big difference as you can guess.

    On the other hand, on top of its FluxRing, pot support of Minimo (shown below) also works as a guard: 

    As a result, wind is barricaded with a lot of strong obstacles until it can reach the burner (the center). MSR Pocket Rocket 2 isn't equipped with any strong obstacle for that matter.

    Also, both stoves work with Butane-Propane Gas mixture under vapor pressure, and both can be used with 100g/230g/450g Isobutane/Propane Gas Cartridges only [see the manuals in the table at the top].

    If you'd like a stove that also works with liquid fuel, check out my MSR Whisperlite vs Dragonfly comparison.

    • If you aren't going to use these stoves with MSR IsoPro or Jetpower

    Make sure your canister conforms to the EN417 or AS2278 standard.

    Now let's get to their compatibility. In short, you can use MSR IsoPro with Jetboil Minimo, and Jetpower with MSR Pocket Rocket 2. Their valves are compatible as well.

    As you see, MSR IsoPro fuel contains Isobutane/Propane Mixture - which is compatible with Jetboil Minimo as well [see the manuals in the table at the top]. It’s a high quality blend of 80% isobutane and 20% propane. It comes in 4, 8 or 16 oz. cans. I took this photo in Naturkompaniet when I was in Sweden, but you can also order it online on MSR's site or on Amazon.

    Also, Jetpower is compatible with MSR stoves as well. As you can also read in their manuals, you can pretty much use any brand of fuel canister on any brand of canister stove.

    But beware: All of these canisters are sold separately, including the Jetpower! You DON'T GET ANY CANISTER WITH EITHER OF THESE STOVES! You can purchase them on Amazon separately:

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    If you want your canister to be packed into the pot as well, make sure you go with the smallest (100 g) one. More on this later (with diagrams) under the compactness heading.

    They also don't expire or go bad - although the valve can start to deteriorate (probably would take almost decades though)... Regardless, you can think of investing in a Jetboil CrunchIt to ensure emptying the cans completely and make them recycling bin ready.

    Boiling Speed

    It takes Minimo 2m 15sec and Pocket Rocket 2 3m to boil .5 L of water.

    45 sec isn't a deal breaker for most of us, so I wouldn't attribute too much meaning to this difference unless you're in the wind.

    • Boil time is the the first time to 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit) degrees is achieved

    Not when you start seeing bubbles.

    Minimo does a perfect job sticking fairly close to 2m 15sec even in nearly 10 mph of decent wind, whereas Pocket Rocket 2 is much worse.

    When looking for additional pots, though, absolutely consider the cup/pot height. The taller they are, the more prone they are going to be to being tilted easily due to the wind.

    Weight and Compactness

    Weight

    There's one thing I'd like to clarify in advance.

    At 14.6 oz, Minimo is 4.7 oz heavier than Pocket Rocket 2. MSR Pocket Rocket 2 DOES NOT weigh 2.6 oz or something like that - because as already explained in the introduction, it's the weight without the pot. Don't let the commercial posts deceive you.

    Glad we got that out of our way. Now you know that their weight difference is 4.7 oz.

    This might sound like a minor difference, and I'm not going to argue with that if you're a medium distance hiker.

    If you're not, however; and if you're going to hike anything longer than, say, 8-10 miles a day; it might be a good idea to take weight into consideration as a more important criteria because even 2-3 oz of extra weight is going to feel ten times worse at the end of the day.

    Regardless, you should always calculate the amount of fuel you'll need before hitting the trail. MSR Blog has a good article about it here for the math.

    Still, this doesn't mean Jetboil Minimo isn't really for a solo thru-hiker. The truth is whatever Minimo lacks in weight compared to Pocket Rocket 2 it makes up and even outscores by far in fuel efficiency, boiling speed and versatility. Make sure you know how to pack your backpack the optimal way for a better weight distribution and you should be perfectly fine.

    Compactness

    If terminology for Pocket Rocket 2 is confusing for you:

    • MSR Pocket Rocket 2: Just the stove
    • MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Mini Stove Kit: Stove + .75 L pot
    • Some sites might claim there's also MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Stove Kit: Stove + .75 L pot + Cook Set

    But that's INCORRECT! That includes the Pocket Rocket as the stove, NOT POCKET ROCKET 2.

    If you'd like to see the Cook Sets which are designed to nest perfectly with your Pocket Rocket 2, here they are: 

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    Trail Lite (first one) can be a good choice if you won't cook for more than 2.

    Now let's see how they nest:

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2 Mini Stove Kit. Click on image to enlarge.

    MSR Trail Lite Duo. Click on image to enlarge.

    Easily fit your MSR Pocket Rocket 2 inside one of the mugs of Trail Lite Duo and you have your entire cook set in one small unit after you fold it as follows:

    3 pot supports shown in this video had left pointy in Pocket Rocket 1 and enhanced in the upgraded most recent model Pocket Rocket 2. They now don't chafe into whatever pack you decide to put it into.

    Jetboil Minimo. Click on image to enlarge.

    Both are easily packed up into one small unit as you see above. Plus points for both stoves as you can fit the entire assembly into the pot - but extra points for Pocket Rocket 2 for being super tiny when folded.

    Simmering

    Both of these stoves are "precision cooking" type of stoves and NOT "boil quick and boil only water" type of stoves. They're both equipped with a fuel regulator and offer great simmer control.

    The little difference you need to know between them is that MSR Pocket Rocket 2 simmers better in perfect conditions (without any wind). Minimo is still amazing at simmering in these perfect conditions, but just shy of Pocket Rocket 2.

    However, if you add a tiny bit of wind, the difference between these stoves get larger than perfect conditions and thanks to its FluxRing and better protected & guarded burner, Minimo makes a much better job than Pocket Rocket 2 in terms of simmering (as well as everything else!).

    Regardless, getting yourself a stove with the fuel regulator is highly recommended as it has two main advantages:

    • You get to cook precisely (duh). This means that you can literally cook with both of these stoves as if you're cooking with your oven at home
    • You get to control gas consumption. You can consume less fuel once the water boils at 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit) Degrees

    This adds to their versatility. A lot. 

    Maybe it's a little off-topic but there are stoves out there without this feature such as Jetboil Flash. They're designed to get your liquid hot as quickly as possible (you can't simmer with them), so I wouldn't recommend them for any other purposes.

    So it's probably a good idea that you're stuck deciding between two stoves that both can simmer greatly.

    Versatility

    Simmering ability alone is enough to make both stoves quite versatile.

    Both stoves are recommended to be used with cookware smaller than 9.5 inches (23 cm) diameter and lighter than 6.5 lbs (3 kg). Check out my best backpacking frying pans article for more information.

    Minimo's larger pot at 1 L helps with its versatility a lot, whereas Pocket Rocket's 0.75 L pot can be insufficient at times especially either you're cooking for two or cooking something bulkier.

    Having the extra 0.25 L with you but not needing is ALWAYS better than needing it and not having it!

    But, actually... Since Pocket Rocket 2 offers high customization, you can get the stove separately and then add either .75 L or 1.2 L pot size (more on this under following heading).

    For Minimo, there's the famous 1.8 L Spare Cup, somewhat more "infamous" 1.5 L cooking pot, and the 1 L spare cup if you'd like to have two of it:

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    I also compared Jetboil Micromo to Minimo, as Micromo offers a .8 L pot instead of Minimo's 1 L pot and everything else remains the same.

    Best Pot for MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    As mentioned earlier, you have two options, either .75 L (solo) or 1.3 L (duo):

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    I'd absolutely recommend 1.3 L if you might need to cook either something bulkier or for 2. If not, .75 L can do fine for you.

    If you aren't sure, remember; having the extra volume with you but not needing is ALWAYS better than needing it and not having it!

    Conclusion

    Both backpacking stoves are great and hence neither of them are "bad". I'd highly doubt you'll regret buying either of these stoves because they're two of the best backpacking stoves out there for most of us.

    For 90% of us, I'd recommend Minimo over Pocket Rocket 2 because of its higher fuel efficiency, versatility and boil speed.

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    The truth is advantages (being 4.7 oz lighter and better simmering in non-windy conditions) are just too niche and unnecessary for most of us. While it’s certainly a lot lighter and can be more effective for thru-hikers, I'd probably recommend Minimo if you're a recreational hiker/camper. 

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    Product Videos

    Jetboil Minimo:

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2:

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    Jetboil Minimo vs Micromo

    Last updated: August 19, 2022 by Canberk Koksal

    Jetboil Micromo and Minimo are both great stoves and they're 95% identical. They have exactly the same burner, regulator, shroud, control valve, canister stabilizer and baseplate attachment. Both are "real cooking" stoves - not "quick boiling without simmering" stoves.

    The only difference between the two is that Minimo comes with a pot with 1L of volume instead of the Micromo's pot with 0.8L of volume. Since the benefit you get from 0.2L of added pot volume is going to be greater than reduced weight of 2.6 oz for 90% of us, I'd recommend Minimo over Micromo without a doubt!

    We'll compare Jetboil Micromo and Minimo on the basis of:

    • Fuel efficiency (Draw),
    • Compactness & Weight (Draw),
    • Boiling speed (Draw),
    • Versatility (Winner: Minimo),
    • Simmering (Draw).

    Again, because they're extremely similar products, I called a draw for all the criteria except one.

    In summary, I'd recommend Jetboil Minimo over Jetboil Micromo without a doubt. Remember, having the extra 0.2L with you but NOT needing it is ALWAYS better than needing it and NOT having it!

    Turn your phone sideways for a much better table display!

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Micromo

    Overall Score

    91/100
    87/100

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Micromo

    Best for...

    • Those who would rather having 0.2L of extra pot volume than the benefit of 1.1 oz of less weight (90% of us)
    • Those want to ditch as much weight as possible (even the extra 1.1 oz in Minimo!)

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Micromo

    Pros

    Very fuel efficient, amazing versatility, great simmer control, completely packs up in to one small unit, works better in the wind

    Very fuel efficient, lighter, great at simmering, completely packs up into one small unit, works good in the wind

    Cons

    2.6 oz heavier (not really a "con" though...)

    Small pot size (only 0.8 L)

    THE NITTY GRITTY

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Micromo

    Weight & Volume & Dimensions

    14.6 oz & 1 Liter & 5 in x 5.5 in (127 mm x 140 mm)

    12 oz & 0.8 Liter & 4.1 in x 6.25 in (104 mm x 159 mm)

    Gas consumption

    6 MJ/hr (AU) || 120 g/hr [1.75kW] (EU) || 6,000 BTU/hr (CA)

    6 MJ/hr (AU) || 120 g/hr [1.75kW] (EU) || 6,000 BTU/hr (CA)

    Jet size

    0.31 mm

    0.31 mm

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Micromo

    Water Boiled

    12 liters per 100 g Jetpower can

    12 liters per 100 g Jetpower can

    Boil Time

    2m 15sec per .5 liter (avg. over life of Jetpower can)

    2m 15sec per .5 liter (avg. over life of Jetpower can)

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Micromo

    User Manuals

    User Manual [PDF]

    User Manual [PDF]

    Short Summary

    Jetboil Minimo Review

    Jetboil Minimo is one of the most versatile stoves out there. It might be boiling the water slower than some of the stoves out there, it's still one of the fastest in the market. More, when the perfect conditions are removed and just a tiny bit of wind is added, it surpasses even the fastest ones due to its wider burner and FluxRing.

    If you'd like to read more about this, I also compared Minimo to Flash (which holds one of the fastest boiling speeds between backpacking stoves) and in windy conditions Minimo passed Flash as expected.

    • Data Set: Backpacking Stoves

    Jetboil Minimo  

    Read Review

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Read Review

    Jetboil Micromo

    Read Review

    Jetboil Flash

    Read Review

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    Read Review

    MSR Whisperlite International

    Read Review

    MSR Dragonfly

    Read Review

    Overall Score

    91/100
    87/100
    87/100
    81/100
    76/100
    74/100
    72/100

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Best for

    All-around, fuel efficient uses for precision cooking and boiling water (even in wind)

    Ultralight uses

    Top alternative to Minimo

    Those who will boil water ONLY in non-windy conditions

    Multiple fuel compatibility (White Gas, Kerosene, Unleaded Gasoline, Canister)

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Pros

    Fuel efficient, amazing simmering, compact and light, fast boiling, great in the wind, incredibly versatile

    Extremely light and compact, great at simmering, easy to use & simple

    Designed identical to Minimo (except the pot)

    Extremely fast boiling, completely packs up in to one small unit, light

    Variety of fuels, quiet, versatile, durable

    Lighter, more simple use than Dragonfly, quiet, durable

    Windscreen, great at simmering, very powerful, durable

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Cons

    4.7 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, can be "overkill" for some

    Considerably less fuel efficient than Minimo, not for wind, boils slower, small pot size

    2.1 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, small pot size, worse than Minimo in the wind

    Can't simmer, redundant features, not for wind

    Bad at simmering, less compact

    Bad at simmering, no canister fuel, less compact

    Very loud, no canister fuel, heavy, less compact

    Fuel Canis-ters 

    (bought sepera-tely)

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    Jetpower

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    Lastly, this stove at REI seems to be a solid alternative to MSR and Jetboil, but I'm yet to review it. 

    It also has a fuel regulator, which allows simmering perfectly, and comes with a 1L of standard pot volume.

    Unless 1.1 oz of extra weight compared to Micromo is a deal breaker for you, I'd recommend Minimo without a doubt. 

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    Jetboil Micromo Review

    Jetboil Micromo is completely identical to Minimo - except the pot size. It comes with a smaller pot at 0.8 L - which is quite small for most of us.

    If going 1.1 oz ligther is super important to you (which I'd highly doubt it) and you're sure you won't really need to cook for two or anything "bulky", Micromo can be an excellent stove choice for you. 

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    Still, you can get the famous Jetboil 1.8L spare tall cup (or the 1L version for Micromo) separately if you'd like to increase the volume of either of these stoves. They are compatible with both Minimo and Micromo. (more on this later).


    Before we get down to the bolts and nuts, I'd like to make it clear one more time that most of the criteria is going to be the same for both stoves, because they're very much identical:

    I contacted Jetboil Customer Service myself and asked about it one more time to make sure (pardon my grammar there guys...). Yes, they're indeed 95% IDENTICAL!

    If you'd like to read about their differences only, navigate to the short summaries/table/introduction section above or the compactness and versatility headings below.

    Table of Contents
    Short Summary
    Jetboil Minimo Review
    Jetboil Micromo Review
    Fuel efficiency
    Boiling Speed
    Compactness and Weight
    Simmering
    Versatility
    Conclusion
    Product Videos
    References

    Fuel efficiency

    Minimo and Micromo are identical and great in terms of fuel efficiency. Their gas consumption is only 6 MJ/hr (AU) || 120 g/hr [1.75kW] (EU) || 6,000 BTU/hr (CA) - which means that per 100 g Jetpower can, you can boil 12 liters of water with them.

    FluxRing technology here is patented by Jetboil and is designed to provide efficiency through increasing the surface area by bent metal you see in the above image. As a result, less heat is lost and more of it is delivered to the cup to boil the liquid - which brings about higher efficiency.

    Also, both stoves work with Butane-Propane Gas mixture under vapor pressure, and both can be used with 100g/230g/450g Jetboil Jetpower Isobutane/Propane Gas Cartridges only [see the manuals in the table at the top].

    • If you'll use other canisters, they must conform to the EN417 or AS2278 standard

    It may be hazardous to attempt to fit other types of gas containers or cooking vessels.

    Also, Jetboil service says that they don't test their stoves with each and every canister out there - so try to use it with the Jetpower brand of fuel. But, canisters of Brunton, Gigapower, MSR, Primus and Snowpeak use the same mixture and valves and are compatible with Minimo and Micromo. If you have an MSR canister and would prefer an MSR stove with it, check out MSR Whisperlite vs Dragonfly article of mine.

    As you see, MSR IsoPro fuel contains Isobutane/Propane Mixture - which is compatible with Jetboil Micromo & Minimo [see the manuals in the table at the top]. It’s a high quality blend of 80% isobutane and 20% propane. It comes in 4, 8 or 16 oz. cans. I took this photo in Naturkompaniet when I was in Sweden, but you can also order it online on MSR's site or on Amazon.

    Beware: All of these canisters are sold separately, including the Jetpower! You DON'T GET ANY CANISTER WITH EITHER OF THESE STOVES! You can purchase them on Amazon separately:

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    If you want your canister to be packed into the pot as well, make sure you go with the smallest (100 g) one. More on this later (with diagrams) under the compactness heading.

    An additional advantage canister fuels have over liquids is that they don’t require priming, preheating or pumping! If you prefer using these canisters, make sure you read my post about the things you should know about butane canisters as a hiker, though.

    They also don't expire or go bad - although the valve can start to deteriorate (probably would take almost decades though)... Regardless, you can think of investing in a Jetboil CrunchIt to ensure emptying the cans completely and making them recycling bin ready.

    Boiling Speed

    Both Minimo and Micromo stand at 2m 15sec per .5 liter (avg. over life of Jetpower can).

    Yes, there are faster boiling stoves out there but 2m 15sec is very good. But more importantly, the fast boiling system of stoves such as Jetboil Flash goes out the window then the perfect conditions are removed and some wind/cold weather is brought to the environment.

    On the other hand, both Minimo and Micromo do a perfect job sticking fairly close to 2m 15sec even in nearly 10 mph of decent wind.

    • Boil time is the the first time to 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit) degrees is achieved

    Not when you start seeing bubbles.

    This is why both stoves are demonstrated as 4 season stoves. 

    Some might say that taller cup of Micromo can be an issue in the wind because it'll be more prone to being tilted easily. However, the difference is not even an inch, so I'd doubt you'd notice a difference there. If you go ahead and purchase an additional, larger, taller pot such as the famous Jetboil 1.8 L Spare Cup:

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    ...it absolutely becomes something to take into account though.

    Compactness and Weight

    First things first: Neither of these stoves are truly lightweight nor compact. 

    At 14.6 oz (Minimo) and 12 oz (Micromo), they're in the same weight ballpark - which had been considered light for many years. But lately, some other stoves such as BSR | $16.95 and MSR Pocket Rocket 2 start becoming more and more popular in the ultralight community although they have their downsides as well which I won't go into detail under this post. They weigh as low as 10 oz (including the pot). See my Jetboil Minimo vs MSR Pocket Rocket comparison for more information. 

    Recently, this is considered the only major disadvantage of most Jetboil stoves - not just these two.

    Still, this doesn't mean they aren't really for a solo backpacker but more for car camping or a large group or an expedition. They're being used by thousands of people for almost a decade and hence wouldn't really be a deal breaker! Just make sure you know how to pack your backpack the optimal way for a better weight distribution and you should do perfectly fine.

    Another thing to note on the weight department is that even though these stoves can be regarded somewhat "heavier" after other brands came up with very light models, you still get to control the amount of fuel you carry. You have the option to carry the exact amount you need after you do the math. MSR Blog has a good article about it here as to how much fuel you should carry for your trip.

    Now here's how to pack them into their pot:

    Diagram belongs to Micromo.

    Diagram belongs to Minimo. Click on image to enlarge.

    Both are easily packed up into one small unit as you see above. Plus points for both stoves as you can fit the entire assembly into the pot.

    Simmering

    Both of these stoves are "precision cooking" type of stoves and NOT "boil quick and boil only water" type of stoves. They're both equipped with a fuel regulator and have great simmer control.

    If you're unaware, this means that you can adjust the fuel intensity once the water is boiled - so you can simmer.

    Getting yourself a stove with the fuel regulator and hence the option to simmer has two main advantages:

    • You get to cook precisely (duh). This means that you can literally cook with both of these stoves as if you're cooking with your oven at home
    • You get to control gas consumption. You can consume less fuel once the water boils at 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit) Degrees

    This adds to their versatility a lot.

    Versatility

    Simmering ability alone is enough to make both stoves quite versatile.

    Both stoves are recommended to be used with cookware smaller than 9.5 inches (23 cm) diameter and lighter than 6.5 lbs (3 kg). Check out my best backpacking frying pans article for more information.

    Minimo's larger pot at 1 L helps with its versatility a lot. Micromo's 0.8 L pot can be insufficient at times especially either you're cooking for two or cooking something bulkier.

    As mentioned earlier having the extra 0.2L with you but not needing is ALWAYS better than needing it and not having it!

    Still, there is something you can do if you go with Micromo and/or you'd like something even bigger than Minimo's 1 L pot. There's the famous 1.8 L Spare Cup (with FluxRing for fuel efficient heating!), and somewhat more "infamous" 1.5 L cooking pot (again with FluxRing):

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    And here is the 1 L pot if you'd like to equalize the volume of your Micromo to the standard Minimo: 

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    Highly recommended if you think you'd cook for more than two at times.

    For other accessories, check out Jetboil's site for Minimo and Micromo.

    Conclusion

    These stoves are literally 90% identical and are great for precise cooking. For 90% of us, I'd recommend Minimo over Micromo for increased cup size.

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    The truth is, cup size of Micromo is just too small for most of us. While it’s certainly lighter and can be more effective, for thru-hikers or those who "compete", for most of us it's obviously the less preferred choice. 

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    Jetboil Flash vs Minimo

    Last updated: August 20, 2022 by Canberk Koksal

    Jetboil Minimo and Flash are both great stoves but with different design intentions.

    The most important thing to know when comparing these two stoves is that Flash is designed for boiling water only (you CAN'T simmer with it), whereas Minimo is designed for cooking AND boiling water. Unless you're looking for a stove for boiling water AND in windless conditions ONLY, I'd recommend Minimo over Flash without a doubt!

    We'll compare Jetboil Flash and Minimo on the basis of:

    • Fuel efficiency (Winner: Minimo),
    • Compactness & Weight (Draw),
    • Boiling speed (Winner: Flash),
    • Versatility (Winner by far: Minimo),
    • Simmering (Winner by far: Minimo).

    But again - they're designed for different uses! So it comes down to what you're looking for - and you probably won't find anything considerably better than these stoves for their exclusive best uses.

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    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Flash

    Overall Score

    91/100
    81/100

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Flash

    Best for...

    • Those who will simmer AND boil water
    • Convenient eating
    • All-round use
    • 4 season use
    • Those who will boil water ONLY and won't use simmering more than a few times
    • Thru-hikers
    • Effective & fast boiling uses

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Flash

    Pros

    Very fuel efficient, amazing versatility, great at simmering, completely packs up in to one small unit, works better in the wind

    Extremely fast boiling, completely packs up in to one small unit, lighter

    Cons

    Slower boiling speed, 1.3 oz heavier

    Less versatile, color change heat indicator is a waste of money, no fuel regulator (=can't simmer), loses "fast boiling" advantage in the wind

    THE NITTY GRITTY

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Flash

    Weight & Volume & Dimensions

    14.6 oz & 1 Liter & 5 in x 5.5 in (127 mm x 140 mm)

    13.1 oz & 1 Liter & 4.1 in x 7.1 in (104 mm x 180 mm)

    Gas consumption

    6 MJ/hr (AU) || 120 g/hr [1.75kW] (EU) || 6,000 BTU/hr (CA)

    7 MJ/hr (AU) || 139 g/hr [2kW] (EU) || 9,000 BTU/hr (CA)

    Jet size

    0.31 mm

    0.27 mm

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Flash

    Water Boiled

    12 liters per 100 g Jetpower can

    10 liters per 100 g Jetpower can

    Boil Time

    2m 15sec per .5 liter (avg. over life of Jetpower can)

    100sec per .5 liter (avg. over life of JetPower can)

    Jetboil Minimo

    Jetboil Flash

    User Manuals

    User Manual [PDF]

    User Manual [PDF]

    Short Summary

    Jetboil Minimo Review

    Jetboil Minimo is one of the most versatile stoves out there. Although slower than Flash in terms of boiling water, it's still pretty fast. Its simmering ability allows precision cooking even at temperatures as low as 20F (-6C) - which is considerably better when compared to Flash.

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    Jetboil Minimo  

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    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

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    Jetboil Micromo

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    Jetboil Flash

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    MSR Whisperlite Universal

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    MSR Whisperlite International

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    MSR Dragonfly

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    Overall Score

    91/100
    87/100
    87/100
    81/100
    76/100
    74/100
    72/100

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Best for

    All-around, fuel efficient uses for precision cooking and boiling water (even in wind)

    Ultralight uses

    Top alternative to Minimo

    Those who will boil water ONLY in non-windy conditions

    Multiple fuel compatibility (White Gas, Kerosene, Unleaded Gasoline, Canister)

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Pros

    Fuel efficient, amazing simmering, compact and light, fast boiling, great in the wind, incredibly versatile

    Extremely light and compact, great at simmering, easy to use & simple

    Designed identical to Minimo (except the pot)

    Extremely fast boiling, completely packs up in to one small unit, light

    Variety of fuels, quiet, versatile, durable

    Lighter, more simple use than Dragonfly, quiet, durable

    Windscreen, great at simmering, very powerful, durable

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Cons

    4.7 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, can be "overkill" for some

    Considerably less fuel efficient than Minimo, not for wind, boils slower, small pot size

    2.1 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, small pot size, worse than Minimo in the wind

    Can't simmer, redundant features, not for wind

    Bad at simmering, less compact

    Bad at simmering, no canister fuel, less compact

    Very loud, no canister fuel, heavy, less compact

    Fuel Canis-ters 

    (bought sepera-tely)

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    Jetpower

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    Lastly, this stove at REI seems to be a solid alternative to MSR and Jetboil, but I'm yet to review it. 

    Unless you're going to be boiling water only with your new stove or 1.5 oz of weight is a deal breaker for you, I'd recommend Minimo over Flash without a doubt. 

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    Jetboil Flash Review

    Jetboil Flash is meant for boiling in SECONDS instead of minutes. It's solely designed around the purpose of providing the fastest and easiest way to boil water and hence its name. This is also why it lacks in terms of cooking meals - it doesn't have a fuel regulator.

    The sacrifice comes with this much of an effectiveness is that when compared to Jetboil Minimo, it isn't even nearly as good at simmering. If you're looking for a stove for both simmering & cooking meals AND boiling water rather than boiling water only, go for Minimo.

    Sure, it isn't end all be all and you can still precision cook with Flash - but for this purpose, it just can't compete against Minimo. 

    If you're going to be boiling water for dehydrated meals, coffee, and tea only; Jetboil Flash can be a perfect choice for you. 

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    Now let's get to the bolts and nuts.

    Table of Contents
    Short Summary
    Jetboil Minimo Review
    Jetboil Flash Review
    Fuel efficiency
    Using MSR Canisters with Jetboil Stoves
    Boiling Speed
    Compactness and Weight
    Simmering
    Versatility
    Conclusion
    Product Videos
    References

    Fuel efficiency

    When it comes to fuel efficiency, Minimo is so much centered around it that it makes even Flash look bad - which is also pretty good at it compared to other stoves in the market.

    Gas consumption of Minimo is 6 MJ/hr (AU) || 120 g/hr [1.75kW] (EU) || 6,000 BTU/hr (CA) whereas that of Flash is 7 MJ/hr (AU) || 139 g/hr [2kW] (EU) || 9,000 BTU/hr (CA). As a result, per 100 g Jetpower can, you can boil 12 liters of water with Minimo and 10 liters of water with Flash. So you consume less gas canisters with Minimo - which makes it more fuel efficient.

    The main cause of this difference is the FluxRing.

    Wider FluxRing (=more surface area to heat) of Minimo means boiling more with less fuel.

    The efficiency gap between these two stoves grows even further in windy conditions. Since Flash is taller and is equipped with a narrower burner than the Minimo, its efficiency decreases even further (more on this later under the versatility heading).

    Both stoves work with Butane-Propane Gas mixture under vapor pressure, and both are used only 100g/230g/450g Jetboil Jetpower Isobutane/Propane Gas Cartridges only [see the manuals in the table at the top]. 

    • If you'll use other canisters, they must conform to the EN417 or AS2278 standard

    It may be hazardous to attempt to fit other types of gas containers or cooking vessels.

    Beware: These canisters are sold separately (you don't get any of them with either of these stoves) and can be purchased on Amazon:

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    If you want your canister to be packed into the pot as well, go with the smallest one!

    An additional advantage canister fuels have over liquids is that they don’t require priming, preheating or pumping! If you prefer using these canisters, make sure you read my post about the things you should know about butane canisters as a hiker, though.

    Using MSR Canisters with Jetboil Stoves

    Short answer: Yes you can use MSR Canisters with Jetboil Stoves.

    A little longer answer is:

    As you see, MSR IsoPro fuel contains Isobutane/Propane Mixture - which is compatible with Jetboil Flash & Minimo [see the manuals in the table at the top]. It’s a high quality blend of 80% isobutane and 20% propane. It comes in 4, 8 or 16 oz. cans. I took this photo in Naturkompaniet when I was in Sweden, but you can also order it online on MSR's site or on Amazon.

    Boiling Speed

    Flash stands at 100sec per .5 liter (avg. over life of JetPower can) boil time compared to Minimo's 2m 15sec per .5 liter (avg. over life of Jetpower can) which is a huge difference. Winner is Flash. By far...

    Some might say, hey, 75 seconds of difference isn't a big deal and I don't have problems with this argument. It's just that you should know that these numbers are just an average. 

    • Boil time is the the first time to 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit) degrees is achieved

    Not when you start seeing bubbles.

    If you're a 4 season hiker, during the winter the difference can increase too much because of more severe environmental conditions - not just cold but also the wind - and it might start making a noticeable difference. As a result, if you go for Minimo, you might end up wishing having a super rigorous stove with you instead.

    It's also better if you're planning to go after meals and drinks prepared with hot water only. I have an article on camping foods prepared without cooking or need to refrigerate, but there are lots of dehydrated meals I've placed there, so it can be a good read if you're one of them.

    Also... this is actually the reason behind why Flash is less fuel efficient. You need to consume A LOT of gas to be able to boil water in only 100 seconds. It's great for more serious thru-hikers, but not optimal for, say, myself, a recreational hiker.

    Before moving on I should also say that Flash is better by far only in perfect conditions. In a windy weather (say, more than 6-8 mph) Minimo boils the water FASTER than Flash (more on this later under the versatility heading)!

    Compactness and Weight

    First things first: Neither of these stoves are truly lightweight.

    At 14.6 oz (Minimo) and 13.1 oz (Flash), their weight ballpark had been considered light for many years. But then, other brands such as MSR, EtekCity, Primus and Snow Peak came up with very compact and much lighter stoves. Including the pot, Pocket Rocket 2 weighs as low as 10 oz (see my Jetboil Minimo vs MSR Pocket Rocket comparison for more information).

    That's why, in today's world, I can't really say Minimo and Flash are in "lightweight stoves" category although they're regarded as such by some. Also, this is the major disadvantage of most Jetboil stoves out there - not just Minimo and Flash.

    If this is a deal breaker for you and you'd prefer going with the best lightweight and compact stove in the market, I'd recommend you to check out MSR Pocket Rocket 2:

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    Still, this doesn't mean Minimo and Flash aren't necessarily for a solo backpacker but more for car camping or a large group or an expedition. They're being used perfectly fine by thousands of people for almost a decade.

    Another thing to note on the weight department is that even though these stoves can be regarded somewhat "heavier" after other brands came up with very light models, you still get to control the amount of fuel you carry. You have the option to carry the exact amount you need after you do the math. MSR Blog has a good article about it here as to how much fuel you should carry for your trip.

    Also, do make sure you know how to pack your backpack the optimal way for a better weight distribution and you should do perfectly fine.

    Now here's how to pack them into their pot & how they end up measuring.

    Diagram belongs to Flash. Click on image to enlarge.

    Diagram belongs to Minimo. Click on image to enlarge.

    Both Minimo and Flash can be easily packed up into one small unit as you see above. Another tip here: If you want your canister to be packed into the pot as well, you'd better go with the smallest one.

    As you see, Minimo (at right) is shorter and fattier compared to Flash when packed. 

    It's plus points for both stoves that you can fit the entire assembly into the pot.

    I didn't give extra points to Flash just for being 1.3 oz lighter because chances are this is a very, very minor difference for 95% of you. I call it a draw for this criteria.

    Simmering

    This is one of the most important things you should know when you can't decide between these two stoves (which is why I repeated it many times until this point): Minimo is much better at simmering than Flash. In fact, you don't even have the option to simmer in Flash because it isn't equipped with a fuel regulator. It's made to get liquid hots as quickly as possible.

    If you're unaware, this means that you can't adjust the fuel intensity once the water is boiled.

    Getting yourself a stove with the fuel regulator and hence the option to simmer has two main advantages:

    • You get to cook precisely (duh). This means that you can literally cook with Minimo as if you're cooking with your oven at home. When your stove can't do this, obviously it's going to boil full-power only, and hence you can only boil water for dehydrated meals (unless you like burnt meal)
    • You get to control gas consumption. You can consume less fuel once the water boils at 100 Celsius (212 Fahrenheit) Degrees

    As explained in the first heading, Minimo was already superior than Flash in terms of fuel efficiency, so Number 2 helps with it even further.

    Versatility

    Simmering ability alone is enough to make Minimo more versatile than Flash.

    Both stoves are recommended to be used with cookware smaller than 9.5 inches (23 cm) diameter and lighter than 6.5 lbs (3 kg). Check out my best backpacking frying pans article for more information.

    Flash comes with a color changing heat indicator at its body. The indicator basically fills up to indicate how long it's until the water is boiled.

    Another different thing worth mentioning is accessories. Coffee press is the most popular accessory (sold separately) and different models are compatible for both of these models. Below you can see the one compatible with Minimo (at left) and another one compatible with Flash (at right).

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    For other accessories, check out Jetboil's site for Minimo and Flash.

    Another thing to mention in terms of versatility is the winter conditions. The problem comes with it mostly isn't the cold but the wind.

    Flash (at right) is equipped with the original burner which is more narrow compared to the revised burner of Minimo. You can see the width difference even in the table in the introduction. As a result of the width, core of Minimo is guarded better than the Flash.

    In addition to the width, as I illustrated many times earlier Flash is considerably taller than Minimo, which causes it to tilt very easily in the wind. Combine these two reasons together and you see why Minimo is marketed as a 4 season stove, whereas Flash as a 3 season stove. Regardless, I'd recommend guarding both stoves out in the rather windy (more than, say, 6-8 mph wind) environments.

    As a result, Minimo works better than Flash in the wind - even in terms of boiling speed! If you're looking for the best backpacking stove in the wind, you might be better clicking over to the MSR Windburner:

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    In summary, the winner for versatility is Minimo by far - which is the main difference between these two stoves.

    Conclusion

    In my opinion, whatever Minimo very slightly lacks in boil speed compared to Flash, it makes up in its versatility, fuel efficiency and simmering ability. Without a doubt I'd recommend Minimo over the Flash for 90% of us.

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    The truth is, Flash is just too niche and inflexible for 90% of us. While it’s certainly effective, durable and great for just boiling water, you can achieve the same results with Minimo if you compromise the boil time a little - and in addition, you get to simmer and use a canister for longer due to increased fuel efficiency.

    Still, if you literally have no plans to simmer, it's probably one of your best choices out there.

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    MSR Dragonfly vs Whisperlite

    Last updated: August 20, 2022 by Canberk Koksal

    These are both great stoves which can handle multiple types of fuel and will last through some nasty conditions. They've both been on the market for some time and it can be confusing which one is better for you - so I tried to answer this as clear and in detail as possible in this post.

    For Whisperlite, there's the Classic, International and Universal. Both Whisperlite International and Universal are better than the Classic and the Universal is even better than the International.

    In summary, while MSR Dragonfly is a more powerful stove and has some cooler features, MSR Whisperlite Universal (NOT International or Classic) is (probably) the most versatile stove on the market that’s also really powerful and way quieter.

    In this post we'll compare MSR Dragonfly and MSR Whisperlite Universal on the basis of fuel types, size & weight, efficiency and comfort - but I also included other Whisperlite variations in the table below for easy "scanning". There's also another heading devoted to Whisperlite International vs Universal comparison at the bottom of this post.

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    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Overall Score

    76/100
    74/100
    72/100

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Best for...

    ...those who want to save grams, cares about versatility and the ability to work with canister fuels!

    ...those who want to save grams

    ... those who want easy simmer control or a stove for cooking for large groups

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Pros

    Variety of fuels, lighter, quiet, very versatile, durable

    Lighter, more simple use than Dragonfly, quiet, durable

    Windscreen, great at simmering, very powerful, durable

    Cons

    Not as good at simmering, less compact

    Not as good at simmering, no canister fuel, less compact

    Very loud, no canister fuel, heavier, less compact

    THE NITTY GRITTY

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Weight

    14.9 oz

    14.9 oz

    1 lbs 1.8 oz

    Types of fuel

    White Gas, Kerosene and Unleaded Gasoline and Canister Fuel

    White gas, Kerosene and Unleaded Auto Fuel

    White Gas, Kerosene, Unleaded Auto Fuel, Diesel and Jet Fuel

    Comes with

    Fuel pump, windscreen, heat reflector, small-parts kit, isopro adapter, canister fuel, stand and stuff sack 

    Fuel pump, windscreen, heat reflector, small-parts kit, and stuff sack 

    Fuel pump, windscreen, heat reflector, small-parts kit, and stuff sack 

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Burn Time per 20 oz. of fuel

    110 min (white gas)
    155 min (kerosene)
    75 min (MSR IsoPro)

    110 min (white gas)
    155 min (kerosene)

    126 min (white gas)
    153 min (kerosene)
    136 min (diesel)

    Boil Time per 1 Liter

    3.5 min (white gas)
    4.4 min (kerosene)
    3.75 min (MSR IsoPro)

    3.5 min (white gas)
    4.4 min (kerosene)

    3.5 min (white gas)
    3.9 min (kerosene)
    3.5 min (diesel)

    Water boiled per 1 oz. of fuel

    1.3 liters (white gas)
    1.6 liters (kerosene)
    1.8 liters (MSR IsoPro)

    1.3 liters (white gas)
    1.6 liters (kerosene)

    1.6 liters (white gas)
    1.7 liters (kerosene)
    1.7 liters (diesel)

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    User Manuals

    User Manual [PDF]

    User Manual [PDF]

    User Manual [PDF]

    Short Summary

    MSR Whisperlite Universal Review

    In my opinion, whatever Whisperlite Universal slightly lacks in power compared to Dragonfly, it makes up in its versatility, simple design and ease of use. Without doubt I would choose Whisperlite Universal over the Dragonfly. It’s lighter and more compact.

    • Data Set: Backpacking Stoves

    Jetboil Minimo  

    Read Review

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Read Review

    Jetboil Micromo

    Read Review

    Jetboil Flash

    Read Review

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    Read Review

    MSR Whisperlite International

    Read Review

    MSR Dragonfly

    Read Review

    Overall Score

    91/100
    87/100
    87/100
    81/100
    76/100
    74/100
    72/100

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Best for

    All-around, fuel efficient uses for precision cooking and boiling water (even in wind)

    Ultralight uses

    Top alternative to Minimo

    Those who will boil water ONLY in non-windy conditions

    Multiple fuel compatibility (White Gas, Kerosene, Unleaded Gasoline, Canister)

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Pros

    Fuel efficient, amazing simmering, compact and light, fast boiling, great in the wind, incredibly versatile

    Extremely light and compact, great at simmering, easy to use & simple

    Designed identical to Minimo (except the pot)

    Extremely fast boiling, completely packs up in to one small unit, light

    Variety of fuels, quiet, versatile, durable

    Lighter, more simple use than Dragonfly, quiet, durable

    Windscreen, great at simmering, very powerful, durable

    Jetboil Minimo

    MSR Pocket Rocket 2

    Jetboil Micromo

    Jetboil Flash

    MSR Whisperlite Universal

    MSR Whisperlite International

    MSR Dragonfly

    Cons

    4.7 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, can be "overkill" for some

    Considerably less fuel efficient than Minimo, not for wind, boils slower, small pot size

    2.1 oz heavier than MSR Pocket Rocket 2, small pot size, worse than Minimo in the wind

    Can't simmer, redundant features, not for wind

    Bad at simmering, less compact

    Bad at simmering, no canister fuel, less compact

    Very loud, no canister fuel, heavy, less compact

    Fuel Canis-ters 

    (bought sepera-tely)

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    Jetpower

    Jetpower

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    IsoPro

    Lastly, this stove at REI seems to be a solid alternative to MSR and Jetboil, but I'm yet to review it. 


    You also get the option to choose liquid fuel and canister fuel with Whisperlite Universal, which would make it my go to for both shorter getaways and longer trails.

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    MSR Dragonfly Review

    The truth is, Dragonfly is just too loud and bulky for the wilderness. While it’s certainly powerful, durable and great for complicated meals, you can achieve the same results with the Whisperlite Universal.

    You might still want to consider Dragonfly if you don’t really care about the noise and you're going to cook for large groups and want really easy simmer control. 

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    Now let's get down to the bolts and nuts.

    Table of Contents
    Short Summary
    MSR Whisperlite Universal Review
    MSR Dragonfly Review
    Types of Fuel
    Technical Properties
    Size and Weight
    Maintenance
    Noise
    Design and Abilities
    Conclusion
    MSR Whisperlite International vs Universal
    References

    Types of Fuel

    This is one of the best thing about these stoves. They're compatible with a lot of types of fuels - especially Whisperlite Universal.

    Camping stoves are classified depending on the types of fuels they use. The three main groups are liquid fuel, pressurized canister and alcohol stoves [1]. They each have their ups and downs. We are interested in the two liquid fuel stoves: MSR Dragonfly and MSR Whisperlite. Liquid fuel stoves are generally more durable than the alternatives, they are also way more powerful both in terms of how fast and how much they provide heat. Even though canister fuels are great they don’t perform as well in colder weather as they sometimes sputter when the temperatures drop. This isn't an issue for liquid fuel and it provides you with constant, reliable heating power [2].

    Typically the main fuel source for liquid gas stoves is white gas. It's a naphtha product and it's a liquid (unlike the name).

    • What's "Coleman Fuel"?

    It's the same thing as white gas! It is just marketed by the Coleman Company.

    Both of these stoves can also readily burn kerosene and unleaded gasoline. MSR Dragonfly can also use diesel and jet fuel. While white gas is handier, you might appreciate these alternatives if you travel abroad.

    MSR also makes these fuel bottles that fit the pumps of Dragonfly and Whisperlite. They are refillable and they come in three sizes: 11, 20 or 30 oz.

    The real advantage in the fuel type category belongs to MSR Whisperlite Universal, while the previous Whisperlite models didn’t have this feature, Universal can also use canister fuel. Canister fuel is pressurized isobutane and propane. The big advantage canister fuel has over liquids is that it doesn’t require priming, preheating or pumping! If you prefer using butane canisters, make sure you read my post about the things you should know about butane canisters as a hiker.

    For best quality, MSR recommends MSR IsoProTM fuel. It’s a high quality blend of 80% isobutane and 20% propane. It comes in 4, 8 or 16 oz. cans [3]. I took this photo in Naturkompaniet when I was in Sweden, but you can also order it online on MSR's site or on Amazon.

    We’ve been discussing it as a liquid gas stove but it’s officially classified as a hybrid fuel stove! You have the option of taking canisters to your weekend getaway and liquid fuels to a colder and longer trip.

    • Bonus feature

    The Whisperlite valve that attaches to canisters keeps them upside down for stronger and more consistent output – even when the can is almost empty!

    MSR has this great introductory video on how to use liquid gas stoves. If you're inexperienced with them, you might want to check it out:

    Technical Properties

    The top two technical properties of a stove is how fast it boils/heats and how much fuel it uses [4]. The two key words are fast and efficient. We will compare them on the basis of three properties: burn time, boil time and water boiled.

    Burn Time is the time the stove can produce a flame per 20 oz. of fuel. The Dragonfly does better when used with white gas, beating Whisperlite Universal 126 to 110 minutes. They are about the same for kerosene with the Whisperlite lasting slightly longer by two minutes. Dragonfly comes with the option of diesel and Whisperlite comes with the option of MSR IsoPro.

    The second criteria is boil time, it’s the time it takes to boil 1 liter of water from room temperature to 100°C. Both Dragonfly and Whisperlite Universal do this in 3.5 minutes for white gas. Dragonfly produces better results of 3.9 minutes compared to Whisperlite’s 4.4 minutes for kerosene. Both of these products are not as fast but more efficient when used with kerosene. They take longer to boil but fuel also lasts longer.

    Lastly, when the water boiled per 1 oz. of fuel is compared. Dragonfly also does slightly better by boiling more for the given fuel. Dragonfly can boil 1.6-1.7 liters of water per 1 oz. of fuel. Whisperlite boils only 1.3 liters for white gas but can boil 1.8 liters per MSR IsoPro (canister fuel).

    When we take a lot at these technical specs, we see that MSR Dragonfly is more powerful and faster. However, note that both of these stoves are really powerful and dependable when used in colder temperatures.

    Size and Weight

    First thing to note: Neither of these stoves are truly lightweight. They aren't necessarily for a solo backpacker but more for car camping, a large group or an expedition. Dragonfly is 1 lbs. 1.8 oz. and Whisperlite is 14.9 oz. This isn’t an insignificant weight when you're backpacking and every ounce counts. However, the Whisperlite is slightly lighter - meaning a slight advantage over the other. I'd recommend you to know how to pack your backpack the optimal way because you probably aren’t going to find a lighter hybrid/liquid gas stove than Whisperlite Universal (except other Whisperlites!).

    If you decide to go with Whisperlite you might want to commit to a type of fuel per trip and leave the other contraptions at home for a lighter pack!

    Another thing to note on the weight department is that, even though these stoves are heavier, you get to control the amount of fuel you carry. Unlike canisters where you have carry in discrete units even if they are almost empty, the liquid fuel tanks are refillable. You have the option to fill it up the exact amount you need. MSR Blog has a good article about it here.

    Maintenance

    Another great aspect of these two are that they are field-serviceable meaning that you can take care of any issue that arises in minutes. They are easier to take apart, clean and reassemble than other stoves.

    Both come with a small parts kit which is for minor problems. MSR also makes more applicable expedition repair kits that are sold separately.

    If you're using diesel, kerosene or unleaded auto fuel that weren’t intended for stoves, certain small particles might clog the pipes. Both Dragonfly and Whisperlite Universal are made with ShakerJet technology which is essentially a needle you can shake to clean the insides of the stove. 

    There are detailed instructions and videos on the MSR website and on their YouTube channel for detailed maintenance tips. Both of these stoves also come with an instruction manual that details how to properly use and take care of your valuable stove. 

    You can checkout the maintenance video for DragonFly:

    There is a similar style maintenance video for Whisperlite Universal and International:

    These two stoves are quite similar in terms of how easy it is to take care of both them. These beasts are really built to last you for over 20 years and with proper care they would.

    Noise

    We didn’t think noise would be a point in comparison for fuel stoves – but it is! The MSR Dragonfly is loud, like really loud. It’s almost not even possible to have a conversation when the Dragonfly is in full blast. In comparison, the MSR Whisperlite sounds like a “whisper”.

    The loudness of MSR Dragonfly can really annoy your fellow campers after a long day on the trail. Especially when you are in the middle of the woods, trying to escape the chaos and sounds of the city the last thing you want is the sound of a roaring fuel stove.

    I personally think this is actually an important point and Dragonfly really gets some negative points for this problem. However, if you are going to use it in an environment where the noise doesn’t matter that much and or the power of the stove is the determining factor Dragonfly is still a great option.

    Design and Abilities

    The designs of Dragonfly an Whisperlite are quite different and even though they can perform similar tasks interchangeably, they excel in different things. First of all, both of them are larger than other stoves which creates a more stable cooking setup. Especially if you have larger pots and pans that you use for your group both of them stay stable on the ground. Dragonfly especially is very stable due to its tripod shape and large legs. You can also check my best backpacking frying pans post to see which one would work for your stove or open fire.

    Dragonfly also has an extra windscreen around the fuel cup that provides extra protection without the separate windscreen. Both of these models come with a separate aluminum windscreen that greatly decreases the consumption of fuel in windy/colder weather. Besides functioning as a windscreen it concentrates the heat released from the fuel cup to the pot/pan above.

    This is a major plus for Whisperlite Universal because other stoves that use canister fuel tend to perform pretty badly with wind as they usually don’t have - and can’t be used with - windshields.

    The best ability of Dragonfly is its ability to simmer, the dual valve at the side allows you to control the heat just like your stove at home. It’s possible to cook a variety of meals ranging from pizzas to sauteed vegetables. While instant noodles is enough for a day trip, eating a range of meals becomes more important if you're on an expedition or if you're camping for fun with friends and want a bit more luxury. Whisperlite Universal is also pretty good at simmering especially when used in canister mode. However, for good simmering and flame control when used with liquids you need to master the technique a bit.

    Whisperlite Universal may not have the large legs but it also has stainless steel tripod legs that are very stable. Not having the bulky legs means that it becomes more compact when packing. It also has great pot rests with grippy teeth that prevent anything from sliding down. This is a great improvement from the previous editions of Whisperlite.

    Whisperlite Universal comes with an adapter and stand for the canisters and the classic pump for liquid fuels.

    Conclusion

    In my opinion, whatever Whisperlite Universal slightly lacks in power compared to Dragonfly, it makes up in its versatility, simple design and ease of use. Without doubt I would choose Whisperlite Universal over the Dragonfly. It’s lighter and more compact. You also get the option to choose liquid fuel and canister fuel with Whisperlite Universal, which would make it my go to for both shorter getaways and longer trails.

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    The truth is, Dragonfly is just too loud and bulky for the wilderness. While it’s certainly powerful, durable and great for complicated meals, you can achieve the same results with the Whisperlite Universal. You might still want to consider Dragonfly if you don’t really care about the noise and you're going to cook for large groups and want really easy simmer control.

    Below video for Whisperlite Universal from MSR can also be a good watch for this comparison:

    And this one for Dragonfly:

    MSR Whisperlite International vs Universal

    Simply put: MSR Whisperlite Universal can do everything that MSR Whisperlite International does and it can also be used with canister fuel. I think this is a great feature because while liquid fuels are stronger and more efficient, canister fuels are easier to use and need no priming. For quicker getaways and smaller groups canister fuels might be the better choice. 

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    There's also Whisperlite Classic that we didn’t discuss here. It’s slightly heavier than Universal and International and it can only burn white gas. While it's really a classic that deserves the fame, the newer models improve on the classic and are the better choice. The classic also doesn’t have the jagged wire potholders and other design improvements.

    This is why this comparison was based on MSR Whisperlite Universal instead of International or Classic. However, you can see the overall features of International on the comparison chart in the introduction.


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